Fat-Assed ATV Riders to Be Banned in Montana, and Dakotas

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The losses just keep piling up for the ol' Blue Ribbon Coalition. Here is another nail in the coffin of the Fat-Assed ATV Riders. It seems like every day, more bad publicity for the Fat-Assed ATV Riders. And yet, we are constantly reminded it is just a small percentage....

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Lack of ATV rules makes forest officials’ jobs tougher
Associated Press

HELENA – The explosive popularity of “off-highway” vehicles – everything from four-wheelers to trail-bikes and souped-up jeeps – has exploded over the past 20 years and left many federal land managers scrambling to put new rules in place to manage them and protect natural resources.

That task is proving more difficult than anyone expected. Officials have found themselves trying to balance the rights of those who want to visit public lands by motor vehicle with those who say it’s gotten out of hand.

“They’re at total opposite ends of the spectrum,” said Steve Christiansen, environmental coordinator for the Gallatin National Forest in Montana. “Right now, it looks like there’s no way to find a solution that will make the majority happy.”

The Gallatin is one of nine forests in the U.S. Forest Service’s Northern Region under orders to update management plans to help reign in motor-vehicle use.

In a 2001 decision, Dale Bosworth, at the time head of the Northern Region, put strict limits on motor-vehicle use in the forests, ordering vehicles to stick to designated roads and trails. He also ordered forest supervisors in the region, covering Montana, North Dakota and parts of South Dakota, to review all of their existing trails and roads and determine which ones – on about 10 million acres in all – should be closed and which should be open.

Bosworth, now chief of the U.S. Forest Service, noted at the time that it was clear the general policy of “open unless closed” had led to thousands of miles of unauthorized roads, damaged natural resources and growing conflicts among users.

Crisscrossed with trails

Forest supervisors in the region are still struggling to meet Bosworth’s orders, and are running into even more conflicts as they try to decide which roads and trails to close.

“It’s just gotten more complicated, more controversial,” said Dick Schweke, travel planner for Montana’s Lewis and Clark National Forest. “We seem to bog down with public controversy.”

The Lewis and Clark forest estimated last spring that more than 1,000 unplanned trails have been carved on the forest’s 1.8 million acres.

Forests across the West often are crisscrossed with old logging and mining roads and two-track trails, a lot of them considered part of a forest’s official “trail system.” Others were cut by horse packers or homesteaders and existed for decades, although never officially recognized as designated routes.

Critics say many more were carved out by off-road enthusiasts without permission. And once one ATV or jeep made a path, others followed, often not even aware the trail was never supposed to be there.


“Any responsible private landowner wouldn’t say, ‘sure, drive wherever you want,’ so why should a land manager? Why is this happening?” said John Gatchell of the Montana Wilderness Association. “There is this whole misplaced discussion of access.”


“Legally, (off-road enthusiasts) have been pioneering,” Schweke said. “And that’s what we don’t want.”


When Bosworth became Forest Service chief, he said unregulated recreation, specifically off-highway vehicle use or “OHV” use, was as a major threat to national forests.


No time or manpower

In the Forest Service’s Southwest Region, which includes five forests in Arizona and New Mexico, supervisors also are trying to develop new rules for managing OHVs. A draft decision is expected in January, and it is almost certain to include off-road restrictions similar to those in Montana and the Dakotas, officials say.

OHV use “grew so fast that it caught us off guard,” said Raquel Poturalski, public affairs officer on the Coconino National Forest near Flagstaff, Ariz.

In 1983, the Forest Service estimated there were about 19.4 million OHVs in the country. By 2000, that number had grown to 35.9 million.

But it hasn’t just been the explosive growth in the popularity of the machines that has led to problems. Land managers, off-road enthusiasts and conservationists agree the problem has been made worse by lax regulations and little enforcement.

Before Bosworth’s 2001 decision, forest managers tried regulate OHVs under two rather vague presidential orders from the 1970s. The orders said only that it was illegal to ride in a manner that would cause “resource damage.”

“The federal law has always said you can’t ride somewhere that will do resource damage. But the issue always was, and is, what is resource damage?” said Dave Payne, recreation manager for the Helena National Forest. “Is it the first person who drives across some land and makes a little rut or is it the second, or the third? Who really knows?”

Land managers simply haven’t had the time or manpower to patrol the millions of acres.

In the Helena National Forest, Payne shows a trail specifically built for motorized use. It is posted with signs and is engineered to leave little impact on the land, with strategically placed water ditches.

But just a short distance away, he points to another trail, created by off-road users, that scales an adjacent hillside – straight up – for at least 3/4 of a mile.

“That is what we don’t want,” he said.

Many off-road enthusiast groups agree some limits are needed, but they fear too many trails will be closed in the process.

“We don’t want to see proliferation or really any new routes created. We are just concerned that the trend is to pretty severely restrict access,” said Bill Dart, of the Blue Ribbon Coalition, which supports multiple use on public lands.

Kristen Brengel of the Wilderness Society in Washington, D.C., said most conservation groups are not pushing for a complete ban.

“Land managers have realized that the era of going where you want is coming to an end and off-road vehicles should stay on designated routes,” she said. “Often times, you hear that we are promoting an all-out ban. We’re not completely unreasonable.”

Mary Wagner, an associate director for the U.S. Forest Service’s recreation, wilderness and heritage resource staff in Washington, D.C., said Bosworth’s office has created two separate teams to address the issue.

The first team is supposed to set up a nationwide policy on OHV use for forests to follow. The second team is to give each of the forests the tools needed to do the hard part – designating which roads to close and which to keep open.

“The policy is maybe the easy part,” Wagner said. “It’s the route designation that is a challenge.”
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Elkgunner, So what if you don't have a FAT ASS? Can you ride anywhere you want?
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You know what's weird, in some, if not all National Forests in this state, all vehicles must be street legal, in order to be on the roads. There may be a couple of specific trails designated for ATV/motorbike use, but mostly ATV's are not allowed, because they are not street legal. Not that that stops anybody from riding them on forest service roads, but that is the law. And it makes no sense to me, as far as I'm concerned if passenger vehicles are legal, ATV's should be too.
 
I won't call those who ride ATV's fat asses
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. Hell, I even think they have their place. Just seems like any more "their place" is every place.

Everything, no matter what it is needs to have some control. In Utah you can see as opening day arrives every truck on the road is loaded down with them. They are everywhere
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After all, isn't hunting about the backwoods and getting away
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? Not eating dust and reeking of gas fumes.
 
I will defend the ATV's right to be on the roads that are open to all other vehicles. I don't see anything wrong with that, and I think that's where they belong. Some people use a jeep, others an ATV. But this riding cross country and creating trails where there were none before has got to stop. What they really need to do is start confiscating ATV's from anybody caught in a closed area. I think that would put a stop to it real quick. And they could auction off the confiscated ATV's to pay for the extra enforcement personnel needed to catch these idiots.
 

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