idaho hunters.i found this today.

In isolated cases we have the feds come in and kill problem wolves, even entire packs, at the taxpayers expense. Well, I want my turn to kill a wolf and imagine this...I would even pay the state a small fee for the privilage.

Greg
 
My husband and I saw a mated pair and pups this last hunting season in an area that we have hunted in for 20 years and never seen any wolves there before, it was awsome but also a little disheartening as well. I think F&G have no idea just how many wolves there truely are in Idaho.
 
hey fairchase can i be the cameraman......i would like live footage of that... i am going up to idaho city area this weekend to help a friend out whose cows just calved not to
long ago and is having problems with 4 legged critters (coyote)....i am going to try to get live footage if at all possible..is Hate a too powerful word when i describe how much negativity i have towards wolves????
 
According to those graphs, Idaho has roughly by my count, 400-500 wolves. WHOOPIE! We have just a tad over 3000 of those wonderful critters here in Minnesota. And if you draw a horizontal line from the tip of Lake Superior west to North Dakota, I would venture to guess that about 2500-2700 live north of that line. Yes, they do eat the deer I hunt, and eat the moose that I will never draw a tag for, but please, a couple hundred of the critters are not going to close your deer or elk seasons. I believe Minnesota is the closest to getting them delisted, and I would be delighted to help the state manage the population.
Those numbers in Idaho could be on the low side as for the wolf population estimate, our state underestimated the numbers for years. What used to be just under 2000, swelled to over 3000 in just one year.
I have seen about 50 wolves in Minnesota in my short lifetime(32 years). None of them when I was actually hunting, mostly in the truck driving to and from wherever.
Just wanted everyone to know how many of the big toothed critters we had over here in my neck of the woods.
 
What they don't show either is the little Idaho bastards that has crossed the snake into Oregon.
 
i read the the new 10j law and i am getting to know some farmers in the mccall.
gonna help them out as best i can... i was looking on the minnesota DNR and i wonder why they gave out 5 elk permits in 2004...
 
We have a very small elk herd here in Northwest MN. Once in a lifetime tag, you pretty much go shoot one off a farmers hay bale, not much of a hunt in my opinion, that's why I've never applied. A moose hunt in the Boundary Waters, now that's another story. Been applying for 16 years, and nothing.
 
Zamboni,

Good luck getting your mutts delisted. Westerner's have watched what is happening with your wolf management and see that delisting them is a long process. We have a lot more of them then the experts tell everyone and it's starting to get out of hand.

My mothers family owns property on the Stoney River north of Two Harbors. Been a lot of years since I've been there. Remember seeing lots of moose and black bear in that country. Lot's of skeeders too!
 
Zamboniman, I know that numbers wise you guys have way more, but what else are they eating there besides deer or moose? Here in Idaho they have much, much more prey sources. Think of it this way in your part of the country they (the wolves) are more of a specialist predator, here they are a generalist with lots of choices as to what they eat.

How many deer are there in Minnesota vs. the number of elk in Idaho?
 
BigHornRam, I grew up in that neck of the woods your family has some property. Used to fish the Stony alot back in my high school days, and do alot of grouse hunting up there. My parents and in-laws still live up there, I get back there a few times a year, but rarely have the time to venture out in the woods like I would like to.
TheTone, I'm not sure of our whitetail numbers, but will do some searching. The wolves here do pretty much just eat moose and deer, but they are at the top of the food chain so I am guessing whatever crosses their path is fair game. Minnesota is a big farming/ranching state too, so while the wolf range is moving farther south in the state, cows, sheep, horses, llamas, chickens, etc. whatever is fenced in is easy pickings for them too. As well as the family dog off of the front porch.
I will try to find deer and moose numbers for you, and try to find the number of wolves killed by the feds here in MN, those may not be public information though.
 
Found some numbers for you quick. 2004 MN
population harvested
deer @1 million @275,000
moose @3500 @125
bear @20,000 @3,500
elk 35 4
caribou some somewhere? no season

Northeastern MN had alot of snow this winter, so I'm sure the moose and deer up that way had a rougher winter contending with the toothy critters. The deer up in that part of the state migrate down to the shores of Lake Superior in the winter, not all but it's a pretty big number of them. So they are very likely to become road kill, and I have seen wolves, coyotes, fox, eat them as they are lyiing in the ditch along Highway 61.
 
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