If you get out there soon, you should be able to bugle in these areas to locate a bull possibly. If you find a bull, there should be cows nearby since they are currently mating. When I shot my elk, I sort of accidentally found them on my way home and the landowner was nice enough to let me on the next day. I wish I could be more help, but focusing on those two areas, making some calls to landowners in those areas should get you on a cow elk. Good luck.