No Brendan Burns. IIRC he posted here way back in the day before he became "famous" after arrowing a couple of very big elk.Ryan Payne? No idea. I don't think they let you have the interwebs in the hoosegow though.
If you are going to the expo, stop by the KUIU booth and let them know what you think of SFW. Jason has his listening ears on and is interested in other hunter's perspectives.
Educate, don't alienate the dude.
KUIU and Peay/SFW
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Wish I would have. I will now be conducting business with First Lite.
Nameless Range
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Jason Hairston and Brendan Burns of KUIU were on a podcast episode of Joe Rogan last week.
I was kind of concerned that they would have a platform to endorse certain things that aren't good previously mentioned in this thread, but it wasn't a bad episode. There was a lot of praising of KUIU products but other than that it was mostly hunting stories.
On a good note it was cool to hear Rogan praise our Public Lands, and convey the appreciation and importance we should have for them and those who set them aside. Good stuff to hear from someone who gets 2-3 million downloads a podcast episode.
I was kind of concerned that they would have a platform to endorse certain things that aren't good previously mentioned in this thread, but it wasn't a bad episode. There was a lot of praising of KUIU products but other than that it was mostly hunting stories.
On a good note it was cool to hear Rogan praise our Public Lands, and convey the appreciation and importance we should have for them and those who set them aside. Good stuff to hear from someone who gets 2-3 million downloads a podcast episode.
Carnage2011
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I seen that podcast as well. I felt like it was really well done and had some good points. Rogan definitely helped the public land cause and seemed to be a strong advocate for them. Brendan has always been a stand up guy when I've talked to him. He comes across with a little arrogance at first, but he's been great about answering some different questions I've had about KUIU products and other things. All in all a good episode.
ShootsManyBullets
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Podcast was good. Now we just need to get KUIU on board with public lands since most of their customers hunt public lands whether DIY or guided. They could be a great advocate.
Wow. Really?? You need to keep reading buddy...
DP and David Allen compared?? Thats funny...
Educate yourself before you sing the praises of a thief.
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406Family
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Loud mouth in the corner's getting to me, (hairston)
talking about my public lands and my deer.....
Post might have been taken down.
I did have a good email exchange with Jason about SFW. Not sure it did any good, but he as warm, kind, polite and seems like a good guy who cares about wildlife and the right to hunt & fish.
RobG
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In the above video's comments, a poster asked a pointed question about KUIU stance regarding public lands. And someone representing KUIU replied:
I really enjoy your products and have turned many of my hunting buddies onto them. They are tough and get the job done in the mountains. I understand there is nothing political in this film, from what has been stated previously, but I feel as a company you are still representing the hunting community when you put out media. A majority of the hunters buying your products hunt and rely on public land. This would have been a great time to see how DJ stands on public land issues, such as the current re-evaluation of the sage grouse policy. His father's policy and drill baby drill mentality it definitely not in line with good habitat conservation. I would like to think I am supporting a company that stands and represents conservation when given the opportunity. If things do not change I will definitely be supporting another company that supports funding public lands, access and habitat conservation. Thank you.
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reelskeptic51
reelskeptic51
2 days ago
I also think his actions spoke to his stand on Public Land Issues!! you may just be a little slow on the uptake Mike!!!
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KUIU Ultralight Hunting
KUIU Ultralight Hunting
1 day ago (edited)
Hey Mike, thanks for your comments, and for your support! While we understand that you have questions on these policies, our focus when putting out a film like this is to tell the story of the hunt, and an interview about (for example) sage grouse policy would derail the flow of the story entirely.
This is not to say your questions aren't legitimate--they are! We can't speak to top-level policy, because we aren't THAT close to the President; however, what we do know is that Don Jr. is a strong advocate for public lands conservation and has lobbied the President hard to support policies on public land access that are favorable towards hunting. It's Don Jr.'s absolute favorite activity, and so for him, at least, it doesn't make sense to support policies that would harm it.
As for KUIU's stance on public lands: KUIU is, and always has been, strongly in support of public lands access, both in our mentality and in our charitable giving. Most of the questioning of our support has been from marketing campaigns from our competitors, trying to make the claim that we are somehow less committed because we don't brag about what we do. KUIU financially supports a number of organizations that we believe are effective at lobbying for public lands access, and frankly, we don't believe that we should have to make a big deal out of it: we're all in this together, after all. It would be insane for us not to support conservation and land access: we'd be reducing the number of potential customers out there...which would be bad for our business!
Jason's relationship with Don Jr. is primarily based on their shared love of hunting, not on political expediency. However, know that Jason, KUIU, and (as far as we can speak for him) Don Jr. are all advocates for hunters, and that we're doing as much as we possibly can to ensure that anyone can go hunt our public lands for years to come.
I really enjoy your products and have turned many of my hunting buddies onto them. They are tough and get the job done in the mountains. I understand there is nothing political in this film, from what has been stated previously, but I feel as a company you are still representing the hunting community when you put out media. A majority of the hunters buying your products hunt and rely on public land. This would have been a great time to see how DJ stands on public land issues, such as the current re-evaluation of the sage grouse policy. His father's policy and drill baby drill mentality it definitely not in line with good habitat conservation. I would like to think I am supporting a company that stands and represents conservation when given the opportunity. If things do not change I will definitely be supporting another company that supports funding public lands, access and habitat conservation. Thank you.
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reelskeptic51
reelskeptic51
2 days ago
I also think his actions spoke to his stand on Public Land Issues!! you may just be a little slow on the uptake Mike!!!
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KUIU Ultralight Hunting
KUIU Ultralight Hunting
1 day ago (edited)
Hey Mike, thanks for your comments, and for your support! While we understand that you have questions on these policies, our focus when putting out a film like this is to tell the story of the hunt, and an interview about (for example) sage grouse policy would derail the flow of the story entirely.
This is not to say your questions aren't legitimate--they are! We can't speak to top-level policy, because we aren't THAT close to the President; however, what we do know is that Don Jr. is a strong advocate for public lands conservation and has lobbied the President hard to support policies on public land access that are favorable towards hunting. It's Don Jr.'s absolute favorite activity, and so for him, at least, it doesn't make sense to support policies that would harm it.
As for KUIU's stance on public lands: KUIU is, and always has been, strongly in support of public lands access, both in our mentality and in our charitable giving. Most of the questioning of our support has been from marketing campaigns from our competitors, trying to make the claim that we are somehow less committed because we don't brag about what we do. KUIU financially supports a number of organizations that we believe are effective at lobbying for public lands access, and frankly, we don't believe that we should have to make a big deal out of it: we're all in this together, after all. It would be insane for us not to support conservation and land access: we'd be reducing the number of potential customers out there...which would be bad for our business!
Jason's relationship with Don Jr. is primarily based on their shared love of hunting, not on political expediency. However, know that Jason, KUIU, and (as far as we can speak for him) Don Jr. are all advocates for hunters, and that we're doing as much as we possibly can to ensure that anyone can go hunt our public lands for years to come.
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