Dinkshooter
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What would have happened if the wolves got into his elk pens?
Sheepherders for the Siddoway Sheep Co. heard the wolves at about 1 a.m. Saturday, but didn't know the extent of the damage until they saw the sheep piled up on each other at daybreak.
So are the wolves in Idaho that neat and tidy, piling them all up for the sheepherders, after chasing through a herd of 2400 sheep? Never came across that skill in the wolf papers. Clearly the biologists are not doing their job.
There is A LOT that we don't know about ecological processes and plant community dynamics in 15"-19" and 20+" precip. zones where many sheep summer. I'm involved in a research project on high elevation sheep allotments that should help illuminate to what extent they influence 20+" Ecological Sites that have (to date) been marginally described. Other than a project based in the Centennial Range in MT, very little work has been done to that end to my knowledge. Their influence on low-mid elevation shrub and forb communities is relatively well documented.Nothing worse on the range than those animals.
Thank you for that!! I'm not sure if any of his work has been published in peer reviewed journals, but I know of a USFS ecologist in Utah that has been collecting veg data and photos on high elevation sheep allotments for a long, long time. PM coming...There is A LOT that we don't know about ecological processes and plant community dynamics in 15"-19" and 20+" precip. zones where many sheep summer. I'm involved in a research project on high elevation sheep allotments that should help illuminate to what extent they influence 20+" Ecological Sites that have (to date) been marginally described. Other than a project based in the Centennial Range in MT, very little work has been done to that end to my knowledge. Their influence on low-mid elevation shrub and forb communities is relatively well documented.
There are plenty of wasteful operators, and the subsidy issue is out of control. However, not every sheep ranch is out to turn public land into dirt. Some of the most historically strong mule deer units in WY either have been or are active sheep allotments. Few would argue that they weren't overused, but modern management has made up considerable ground.
By the way...biologists/ecologists: I'm interested in peer reviewed literature regarding plant community ecology in sheep allotments, particularly tall forb/alpine turf summer range. Thanks!
So are the wolves in Idaho that neat and tidy, piling them all up for the sheepherders, after chasing through a herd of 2400 sheep? Never came across that skill in the wolf papers. Clearly the biologists are not doing their job.
You can guarantee a profit will be made. Siddoway is a former F&G commissioner that many, me included, believe ran for and became Senator specifically to protect his own elk farm/ranch/hunting facility and sheep interests. I see him as a slightly more rational version of Rex Rammell.
There is A LOT that we don't know about ecological processes and plant community dynamics in 15"-19" and 20+" precip. zones where many sheep summer. I'm involved in a research project on high elevation sheep allotments that should help illuminate to what extent they influence 20+" Ecological Sites that have (to date) been marginally described. Other than a project based in the Centennial Range in MT, very little work has been done to that end to my knowledge. Their influence on low-mid elevation shrub and forb communities is relatively well documented.
There are plenty of wasteful operators, and the subsidy issue is out of control. However, not every sheep ranch is out to turn public land into dirt. Some of the most historically strong mule deer units in WY either have been or are active sheep allotments. Few would argue that they weren't overused, but modern management has made up considerable ground.
By the way...biologists/ecologists: I'm interested in peer reviewed literature regarding plant community ecology in sheep allotments, particularly tall forb/alpine turf summer range. Thanks!