To bad they didn’t reintroduce these wolves in Yellowstone instead of their monster Canadian cousins. Things would probably be a whole lot better.
And something other than Lobo Watch.Have some facts to back that up?
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To bad they didn’t reintroduce these wolves in Yellowstone instead of their monster Canadian cousins. Things would probably be a whole lot better.
And something other than Lobo Watch.Have some facts to back that up?
Come on man, I was baiting.And something other than Lobo Watch.
Interesting conversation.
Ep. 166: Hunting with Teeth | MeatEater Podcasts
Steven Rinella talks with Diane Boyd and Janis Putelis.Subjects discussed: Cyclone fences; swapping a motorcycle for a first wolf experience; Wolf rendezvous sites and snagging a wolf in a blind set; wolves killing wolves; wolves and border security; the myth of the super-wolf; did the wolf...www.themeateater.com
EIS might me of interest to some as well.
50% of the moose calves in Minnesota would be like 25. Unfortunately the moose population in Minnesota has fallen, but it seems to be holding steady despite the wolf population growing.I attended the MN DNR roundtable a few years back where they stated that wolves kill over 50% of the moose calves before September. So that is a direct contradiction to the articles statement that wolves in MN don't eat moose. I am not anti-wolf, but I do get tired of contradictory information. As an iconic species in MN, I wish we were doing more to save the moose.
And deer as well. Anyone here recall the state of the deer population in NE Minnesota in the 70s?50% of the moose calves in Minnesota would be like 25. Unfortunately the moose population in Minnesota has fallen, but it seems to be holding steady despite the wolf population growing.
I believe There is a larger correlation to the rise of deer numbers and the fall of moose numbers than the rise of wolf numbers and the fall of moose numbersAnd deer as well. Anyone here recall the state of the deer population in NE Minnesota in the 70s?
What our Gov and his love really want is reintroduction of megamosquitos.Maybe Colorado should transplant some suckers and blueberries too!
We in Minnesota can send you many mosquito varieties along with the wolves .What our Gov and his love really want is reintroduction of megamosquitos.
Can't we fix most of the debate with genetic sequencing now?Depends on one’s definition of “significant” difference in size (or more accurately, average size).
This article or research paper from 2012 which another member linked to in a different thread, does note differences in sizes of wolves based on region and diet, and noted there was still controversy over this kind of thing.
An Account of the Taxonomy of North American Wolves From Morphological and Genetic Analyses
Abstract. The available scientific literature was reviewed to assess the taxonomic standing of North American wolves, including subspecies of the gray wolf, Canis lupus. The recent scientific proposal that the eastern wolf, C. l. lycaon, is not a subspecies of gray wolf, but a full species...meridian.allenpress.com
Excerpts:
Development of even more powerful genetic markers has led to new, highly controversial interpretations, * * * * Other controversies include whether the current Great Lakes wolf population is evolutionarily representative of the historical population (Leonard and Wayne 2008) * * * and the taxonomic identity of wolves of Pacific coastal regions (Muñoz-Fuentes et al. 2009). The lack of consensus among researchers on so many important issues related to the taxonomy of North American wolves prompted the present review.
Differences in habitat have been correlated with variations in behavior, including migration and prey selection. For example, Kolenosky and Stanfield (1975) have described variation in Ontario wolves, where larger wolves of boreal forests specialize on moose Alces americanus and caribou Rangifer tarandus as prey, while smaller wolves in deciduous forest habitats specialize on white-tailed deer Odocoileus virginianus.
Trends of increasing size among wolves to the north and west of southern Ontario and Quebec have been noted in morphometric studies covering the Great Lakes region. The association of smaller wolves with white-tailed deer in deciduous forests and larger wolves with larger prey, such as moose and caribou, in boreal forests has been frequently cited (Kolenosky and Standfield 1975; Skeel and Carbyn 1977; Schmitz and Kolenosky 1985). When wolf skulls were divided by source habitat into deciduous forest (eastern wolf) and boreal forest (C. lupus), discriminant function analysis distinguished 75% of boreal wolves from eastern wolves, and boreal wolves were >25% larger in body mass (Kolenosky and Standfield 1975).
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This review was initiated because of the wide range of views expressed by different researchers and research groups on some major features of relationships and classification of North American wolves.
Minnesota could help you with that too.What our Gov and his love really want is reintroduction of megamosquitos.
Can't we fix most of the debate with genetic sequencing now?
From the 2012 paper https://meridian.allenpress.com/naf.../An-Account-of-the-Taxonomy-of-North-American
++++To summarize, a comprehensive understanding of North American wolf evolution and taxonomy will require: 1) geographically comprehensive morphometric analyses of wolf morphology using more objective methods than discriminant function analysis; 2) larger samples for both genetic and morphological studies from currently undersampled areas; 3) morphometric and genetic analysis of historical collections now in museum collections; 4) sampling schemes and analyses that take into account the warnings and recommendations of Schwartz and McKelvey (2009) and Schwartz and Vucetich (2009); 5) transparent reporting in scientific publications of detailed locality information; 6) reporting of morphological and genetic information obtained from all available genetic marker types for individual animals; 7) and integration of all morphological and genetic information in analyzing and interpreting the results of studies.
There is scientific support for the taxa recognized here, but delineation of exact geographic boundaries presents challenges. Rather than sharp lines separating taxa, boundaries should generally be thought of as intergrade zones of variable width. These “fuzzy” boundaries are a consequence of lineages of wolves that evolved elsewhere coming into contact with each other. Historical or modern boundaries should also not be viewed as static or frozen in any particular time. Our understanding of the historical interactions between subspecies or genetically different populations (e.g., Leonard et al. 2005) is that they are dynamic processes and boundaries can shift over time. Even with the great dispersal capabilities of wolves and their interaction in these intergrade zones, genetic indications of the independent evolution of the wolves here recognized as species or subspecies are still discernible on a continental scale.+++
Yes, you are a master @ thatCome on man, I was baiting.