Football General Talk

[VikingsGuy]

McCarthy is back - didn’t see that happening.

 

[BrentD]

McCarthy is back - didn’t see that happening.

I'm not too surprised. Jerry thinks he is close, so he doesn't want to rock the boat too much. And Bill B probably told him to take a flying f...

 

[Gellar]

And Bill B probably told him to take a flying f...

That’s my guess.

 

[VikingsGuy]

That’s my guess.

There was ZERO chance that the two biggest egos in sports would "collaborate" on their last dance.

 

[Hem]

There was ZERO chance that the two biggest egos in sports would "collaborate" on their last dance.

I was going to say it takes a big ego to be a winner but that wouldn't apply here.^

 

[Southern Elk]

I’ve never thought the Cowboys would win a Super Bowl under McCarthy. Dude had Rodgers for all of those years and only won one. Retread coaches are rarely successful at their next stop.

 

[BrentD]

Retread coaches are rarely successful at their next stop.

I don't think I can agree with that Belichick was a retread when he arrived in Boston. Pete Carrol was when he arrived at Seattle - actually, I think a lot of them are retreads. They just have to get lucky and land on a good team.

 

[406dn]

McCarthy is back - didn’t see that happening.

This is good news for Cowboy haters everywhere.

I think it speaks to Jerra's not wanting to pay out the end of a contract, and get nothing for it. It took him a long time to move on from Jason Garrett.

 

[Southern Elk]

I don't think I can agree with that Belichick was a retread when he arrived in Boston. Pete Carrol was when he arrived at Seattle - actually, I think a lot of them are retreads. They just have to get lucky and land on a good team.

Some do work out. More often than not, they don’t. McCarthy had all of the tools to win multiple Super Bowls in Green Bay and didn’t. Ask Green Bay fans if they want him back.

 

[seeth07]

Some do work out. More often than not, they don’t. McCarthy had all of the tools to win multiple Super Bowls in Green Bay and didn’t. Ask Green Bay fans if they want him back.

No, absolutely not.

 

[Southern Elk]

I don't think I can agree with that Belichick was a retread when he arrived in Boston. Pete Carrol was when he arrived at Seattle - actually, I think a lot of them are retreads. They just have to get lucky and land on a good team.

Maybe the word rarely wasn’t the right choice, but for every Belichick there’s a Josh McDaniel.

 

[BrentD]

Some do work out. More often than not, they don’t. McCarthy had all of the tools to win multiple Super Bowls in Green Bay and didn’t. Ask Green Bay fans if they want him back.

I think the SB yardstick is a bit much and ignores the fact that McCarthy had Rodgers, but Belichick had Brady and much more. You can't ignore the rest of the league.

 

[Southern Elk]

I think the SB yardstick is a bit much and ignores the fact that McCarthy had Rodgers, but Belichick had Brady and much more. You can't ignore the rest of the league.

Yes, unfortunately most of us feel like our teams are unsuccessful if they don’t win a championship. I’m guilty as charged.

 

[VikingsGuy]

I think the SB yardstick is a bit much and ignores the fact that McCarthy had Rodgers, but Belichick had Brady and much more. You can't ignore the rest of the league.

Stop arguing reason and nuance in a thread driven by "hot takes" and super-fan blinders.

 

[Gellar]

I don't think I can agree with that Belichick was a retread when he arrived in Boston. Pete Carrol was when he arrived at Seattle - actually, I think a lot of them are retreads. They just have to get lucky and land on a good team.

I agree with Brent. Not just in football but look how many other people throughout time fail the first time but keep coming back learning each time and then boom, they get it.

I think in football and pro sports it might be just as much the organization as the players look how many #1 picks fail, not because of talent but the organization they are in.

 

[Elkmagnet]

I think the SB yardstick is a bit much and ignores the fact that McCarthy had Rodgers, but Belichick had Brady and much more. You can't ignore the rest of the league.

The bar is too high.
The media talks about Kyle Shanahan being on the hot seat if the 49ers don't win the Superbowl this year. What? It takes a little luck also. A couple of funny bounces and your going home for the year.
Does anybody else feel like that would be crazy?

 

[Zlewis84]

The phonetic spelling of the phenomenon of being a diehard Cowoy's fan..

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I feel like this is for Vikings fans

 

[noharleyyet]

The bar is too high.
The media talks about Kyle Shanahan being on the hot seat if the 49ers don't win the Superbowl this year. What? It takes a little luck also. A couple of funny bounces and your going home for the year.
Does anybody else feel like that would be crazy?

JJ obviously agrees...but you're not wrong

 

[VikingsGuy]

I feel like this is for Vikings fans

Nah - from pre-season to reg season end happy fatalist is a better characterization . That then changes to really pissed off and paranoid fatalist during playoffs. We are the pre-2004 Boston Red Sox of football. This is far worse than being the pre-2016 Cubs of football (Lions) - where your rational hopes are really never raised that far. No, we often have legit hopes, while knowing this just raises the bar on how horrific the predictable fall will be. All are welcome to join the Vikings fan lifestyle, but like the tundra of the north, not all are sufficiently strong to survive it.

 

[Zlewis84]

Nah - from pre-season to reg season end happy fatalist is a better characterization . That then changes to really pissed off and paranoid fatalist during playoffs. We are the pre-2004 Boston Red Sox of football. This is far worse than being the pre-2016 Cubs of football (Lions) - where your rational hopes are really never raised that far. No, we often have legit hopes, while knowing this just raises the bar on how horrific the predictable fall will be. All are welcome to join the Vikings fan lifestyle, but like the tundra of the north, not all are sufficiently strong to survive it.

lol I get it. I’ve been a Vikings fan my whole life and Iowa Hawkeyes. I’m used to let down hahaha