Corner Crossing Podcast #4
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Elky Welky
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Montana specific from MT-BHA, but goes to show how complex this issue is in states with less clarity than WY:
https://www.backcountryhunters.org/thinking_about_corner_crossing_in_montana_read_this_first
https://www.backcountryhunters.org/thinking_about_corner_crossing_in_montana_read_this_first
Good read. Thank you.
BuzzH
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Appealed.
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Eshelman appeals corner-crossing loss to 10th Circuit - WyoFile
Elk Mountain Ranch owner challenges a federal judge’s decision that stepping through his airspace without touching private land is not trespassing.
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BuzzH
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It's a good thing, imo.
Nameless Range
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If he loses his appeal, does the initial decision have a more widespread standing?
Yup.
Elky Welky
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We knew it was coming, and this could be a very good thing. The 10th circuit is one step closer to the Supreme Court, and its decision extends to more states. Thanks for letting us know @BuzzH!
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I feel bad for the hunters. I'm going to guess they will have to show up as well? Pain in the ass. This guy needs to be put in his place and something decided one way or the other. God forbid he wins but I have a feeling his money will be a big factor in doing just that.
Elky Welky
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The BLM has directed state agencies to implement corner crossing. This is big news!
https://billingsgazette.com/news/st...3a03f14b5.html#tracking-source=home-top-story
https://billingsgazette.com/news/st...3a03f14b5.html#tracking-source=home-top-story
BuzzH
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Yes it is and I'm surprised there isn't more chatter about it.
This is exciting news.
perma
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Boy I’m sure FWP is thrilled about that.
JM77
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I can't imagine a successful criminal case being tried on CC. Unfortunately, many are gun shy for the likes of Eshelman threatening and filing civil suits.
I find it very interesting, “Our solicitors think it’s pretty clear,” said Tracy Stone-Manning, director of the BLM."
It was likely a team of Solicitors providing legal input into BLM's decision to implement. This is BIG decision to implement within a federal agency that manages all that public land.
It was likely a team of Solicitors providing legal input into BLM's decision to implement. This is BIG decision to implement within a federal agency that manages all that public land.
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It’s pretty awesome to see the feds stand up against the landowner privilege that has been incorrectly utilized within the system for all these years. Breath of fresh air and stands in direct contrast to how the forest service and the crazy mountains were addressed under the last admin
Elky Welky
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Sadly, I can, at least in MT. County attorneys are elected positions, and the people that help fund those campaigns are usually some of the more influential members of their communities. Politics could play a role in prosecutions. And in some of Montana's smallest counties (by population), particularly in the eastern half of the state, a jury could mostly be comprised of landowners with very different views on public property rights. Also, our attorney general is on record saying he will never support the public acquiring any more land. And it is the AGs office that oversees all of the county prosecutors.
Elky Welky
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It may have been too good to be true, although really, it sounds like the BLM is just doing their due diligence. No official directive has come from the agency, but as Dir. Stone-Manning indicated, their solicitors think it is pretty clear. So we are back to waiting for the 10th Circuit to make a ruling.
https://wyofile.com/feds-walk-back-blm-boss-corner-crossing-directive/
https://wyofile.com/feds-walk-back-blm-boss-corner-crossing-directive/
JM77
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Using public land on the other side of a corner is akin to acquiring more public land? Interesting.
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