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Just sitting here in the delivery room, waiting for baby to arrive, and finished reviewing 2023’s most obnoxious, troll-worthy, & milk-through-your-nose threads.

For your reading pleasure, I’m pleased to present 19 20 nominees in 3 award categories:

Hottest bro-crush on a hunting personality
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Most shameless trolling or SHlT-stirring thread
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Best dumpster fire or derailment
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Each category will have its own thread/poll. Let the roasting begin…
 
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Pucky Freak said:
Just sitting here in the delivery room, waiting for baby to arrive, and finished reviewing 2023’s most obnoxious, troll-worthy, & milk-through-your-nose threads.

For your reading pleasure, I’m pleased to present 19 nominees in 3 award categories:

Hottest bro-crush on a hunting personality
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Most shameless trolling or SHlT-stirring thread
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Best dumpster fire or derailment
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Each category will have its own thread/poll. Let the roasting begin…
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Where's the poll with this thread among the categories? ;)
 
Winners!

Red-Team 98, proud acolyte of Orange Jesus, discovered HT has too many libs and free-thinkers for his liking. Took his ball and bat and went home a mere 9 days following his bold introduction.

Shameless trolling had 11 nominees, and I award 2 winners:

@DouglasR ...you may return from your self-imposed exile since 10-12-23. Yes, we were all mad when you pushed HT's beloved Wllm too far, but he's back now, and all is forgiven. We have high expectations of you in 2024 to top Dating Advice. Older Women? A whopping 95% of us approved you to pounce on that cougar, and we are STILL waiting for pictures.

Second place with a whopping 45% of support from those polled goes to Dayhike Express, Hilleberg Bane... Marshian! Be proud - you spawned a fantastic inside joke. Enjoy your tag soup, too.

MtEngineer posted a serious treatise on Matt Rinella, and apart from a few well-behaved posters, OP and wingman @rjthehunter got roasted alive.

Seeing as MtEngineer does not appreciate our humor, I reward him with an equally serious response to his post (see below, eventually), informed by my personal correspondence with Matt, and experience listening to 80+ Hunt Quietly episodes, Matt's Pope and Young speech, his interviews on other platforms, and all of Matt's published articles pertaining to the Hunt Quietly movement.

Lastly, Pucky's Choice Award goes to @Harold357 , who left us TWO gems over the course of his illustrious 13-day existence on the forum. If for nothing else, perhaps the joy you brought @JLS will one day draw him back to HT.

PRIDE Month Celebtrations at Public Land Management Agencies

I removed some critiques I had regarding the implementation of these public land policies and seeking others feedback. It invited nothing but problems. These are public resources and the public agencies managing them feel it a worthy cause. Please don't post anything. Here is a brief run...
www.hunttalk.com www.hunttalk.com

Cheapest Non-Lead .22 LR

Does anyone have any recommendations for Non-Lead .22 LR. I shoot a high volume and need to explore non-lead alternatives. I see CCI for about 15$ per 50 but that's like a 3x increase over what I shoot now. Thanks for any help.
www.hunttalk.com www.hunttalk.com
 
Pucky Freak said:
Winners!

Red-Team 98, proud acolyte of Orange Jesus, discovered HT has too many libs and free-thinkers for his liking. Took his ball and bat and went home a mere 9 days following his bold introduction.

Shameless trolling had 11 nominees, and I award 2 winners:

@DouglasR ...you may return from your self-imposed exile since 10-12-23. Yes, we were all mad when you pushed HT's beloved Wllm too far, but he's back now, and all is forgiven. We have high expectations of you in 2024 to top Dating Advice. Older Women? A whopping 95% of us approved you to pounce on that cougar, and we are STILL waiting for pictures.

Second place with a whopping 45% of support from those polled goes to Dayhike Express, Hilleberg Bane... Marshian! Be proud - you spawned a fantastic inside joke. Enjoy your tag soup, too.

MtEngineer posted a serious treatise on Matt Rinella, and apart from a few well-behaved posters, OP and wingman @rjthehunter got roasted alive.

Seeing as MtEngineer does not appreciate our humor, I reward him with an equally serious response to his post (see below, eventually), informed by my personal correspondence with Matt, and experience listening to 80+ Hunt Quietly episodes, Matt's Pope and Young speech, his interviews on other platforms, and all of Matt's published articles pertaining to the Hunt Quietly movement.

Lastly, Pucky's Choice Award goes to @Harold357 , who left us TWO gems over the course of his illustrious 13-day existence on the forum. If for nothing else, perhaps the joy you brought @JLS will one day draw him back to HT.

PRIDE Month Celebtrations at Public Land Management Agencies

I removed some critiques I had regarding the implementation of these public land policies and seeking others feedback. It invited nothing but problems. These are public resources and the public agencies managing them feel it a worthy cause. Please don't post anything. Here is a brief run...
www.hunttalk.com www.hunttalk.com

Cheapest Non-Lead .22 LR

Does anyone have any recommendations for Non-Lead .22 LR. I shoot a high volume and need to explore non-lead alternatives. I see CCI for about 15$ per 50 but that's like a 3x increase over what I shoot now. Thanks for any help.
www.hunttalk.com www.hunttalk.com
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Woah, come on, wingman? I'm the captain of this ship!

Note to everyone, don't disagree with Matt Rinella fans. They get mad quickly! :ROFLMAO:
 
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Pucky Freak said:
Lastly, Pucky's Choice Award goes to @Harold357 , who left us TWO gems over the course of his illustrious 13-day existence on the forum. If for nothing else, perhaps the joy you brought @JLS will one day draw him back to HT.

PRIDE Month Celebtrations at Public Land Management Agencies

I removed some critiques I had regarding the implementation of these public land policies and seeking others feedback. It invited nothing but problems. These are public resources and the public agencies managing them feel it a worthy cause. Please don't post anything. Here is a brief run...
www.hunttalk.com www.hunttalk.com

Cheapest Non-Lead .22 LR

Does anyone have any recommendations for Non-Lead .22 LR. I shoot a high volume and need to explore non-lead alternatives. I see CCI for about 15$ per 50 but that's like a 3x increase over what I shoot now. Thanks for any help.
www.hunttalk.com www.hunttalk.com
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Thank you for doing this @Pucky Freak. While most of the accounted for content was rather hilarious, I definitely enjoyed @chatbot357 the most, as his direct and punctual posts were extremely formal and easy to read. I analyzed both threads thoroughly and determined that those replies were often manifested from chatgpt, a well-known artificial intelligence conversation generator. You may have noticed others using this same software to write poems about Matt Rinella and Cam Hanes.

I also have taken the observation that @chatbot357 finds the words "bro" and "bot" heinous, as his last post in fact had the word "bro" in it before he left. What I will also say, which I find rather ironic and funny, is that he left us with exactly sixty-nine (69) posts. I am not sure exactly if this was his intended exit strategy, but I will take this feedback and do some more research before drawing to a conclusion that he may have been, in fact, a meme-er.

Also, I miss JLS.....
 
Pucky Freak said:
@DouglasR ...you may return from your self-imposed exile since 10-12-23. Yes, we were all mad when you pushed HT's beloved Wllm too far, but he's back now, and all is forgiven. We have high expectations of you in 2024 to top Dating Advice. Older Women? A whopping 95% of us approved you to pounce on that cougar, and we are STILL waiting for pictures.
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I say we don't let him back in until he posts said pictures, that was the ultimate tease, and some of us got bored...
 
Pucky Freak said:
Winners!

Red-Team 98, proud acolyte of Orange Jesus, discovered HT has too many libs and free-thinkers for his liking. Took his ball and bat and went home a mere 9 days following his bold introduction.

Shameless trolling had 11 nominees, and I award 2 winners:

@DouglasR ...you may return from your self-imposed exile since 10-12-23. Yes, we were all mad when you pushed HT's beloved Wllm too far, but he's back now, and all is forgiven. We have high expectations of you in 2024 to top Dating Advice. Older Women? A whopping 95% of us approved you to pounce on that cougar, and we are STILL waiting for pictures.

Second place with a whopping 45% of support from those polled goes to Dayhike Express, Hilleberg Bane... Marshian! Be proud - you spawned a fantastic inside joke. Enjoy your tag soup, too.

MtEngineer posted a serious treatise on Matt Rinella, and apart from a few well-behaved posters, OP and wingman @rjthehunter got roasted alive.

Seeing as MtEngineer does not appreciate our humor, I reward him with an equally serious response to his post (see below, eventually), informed by my personal correspondence with Matt, and experience listening to 80+ Hunt Quietly episodes, Matt's Pope and Young speech, his interviews on other platforms, and all of Matt's published articles pertaining to the Hunt Quietly movement.

Lastly, Pucky's Choice Award goes to @Harold357 , who left us TWO gems over the course of his illustrious 13-day existence on the forum. If for nothing else, perhaps the joy you brought @JLS will one day draw him back to HT.

PRIDE Month Celebtrations at Public Land Management Agencies

I removed some critiques I had regarding the implementation of these public land policies and seeking others feedback. It invited nothing but problems. These are public resources and the public agencies managing them feel it a worthy cause. Please don't post anything. Here is a brief run...
www.hunttalk.com www.hunttalk.com

Cheapest Non-Lead .22 LR

Does anyone have any recommendations for Non-Lead .22 LR. I shoot a high volume and need to explore non-lead alternatives. I see CCI for about 15$ per 50 but that's like a 3x increase over what I shoot now. Thanks for any help.
www.hunttalk.com www.hunttalk.com
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Solid choices. I don't think Douglas left on his own terms... Pretty sure he received the ban hammer!
 
@MtEngineer writes:

"Matt is EXTREMELY hypocritical. He is selling a podcast, shirts, and his own brand - just like Steve, Randy, and others. It's "not for profit" but I think we all know what that can and usually means in the American tax system."

Bold accusations. Podcast has no sponsors. He runs the platform out of his own funds. The shirts and other merch are at cost. He encourages others to make their own merch using his material. I'd love to see your proof of his financial gain from the HQ platform.

"He's literally using Cam Hanes name, image, and likeness to generate money."

Cam is welcome to sue and/or seek an injunction to get "Stop Hammering" off of merch. Might be a tall task since Matt isn't making any money off said merch.

"The fact is - no one would even know who he is if it wasn't for Steve, and his whole "hunt quietly" brand wouldnt even exist. So how is it fair to criticize someone who actually built their own brand, and is profiting off the same thing he is?"

Again, there is no proof Matt is turning a profit off of the HQ platform. Matt is Steve's older brother, and the two of them spent their young lives hunting, fishing, and exploring the outdoors together. Matt claims Steve wouldn't have MeatEater if it were not for their shared experiences, and there is some truth in this. If it were not for Steve, HQ might still exist, but it would not garner anywhere near the amount of attention without the celebrity name reference.

"Matt does criticize state agencies that aren't managing and/or protecting wildlife - but fails to understand that additional resources (hunter voices, dollars, and advocacy groups) are really all that we have to petition these trustees to do better. More or less, the political power we already have isnt enough. He seems to want to maintain the existing opportunity we have (extended and long seasons), but only to a select few who are "in it for the right reasons." A publicly managed good is only a "public" good if there are enough individuals interested to make it a priority."

Please point me to Matt's criticism of state agencies. I am not aware that he has taken issue with them. He takes issue with hunters, outdoor companies, and hunting nonprofits for how they work together to extract dollars from publicly-held natural resources. Matt would prefer to share the woods with everyone who is out there to enjoy the experience. He'd prefer not to share the woods with gear models, wannabe hunting influencers, and hunting celebrities, because their dollar-extraction of the public resource is seen as an unworthy endeavor.

"I sympathize and understand his thoughts on the "profit" of wildlife, in terms of private land guded hunts and leases. However, private land owners that WANT more wildlife in the respective area is one of the greatest assets we have. Believe me when I say I have felt the rage of watching nearly elk in the drainage sitting pivot in the breaks for "sale" or on KG ranch. If these wildlife were worth nothing to these landowners - how many elk would the land owners in the area push for when the state solicits their input for setting population objectives?"

In Montana, perhaps more than anywhere else, land owners continually advocate for additional hunting opportunity in order to push elk off of public and on to their ranches. So the argument about large private landowners valuing wildlife is lost in the reality where said landowners and their allies also prevent the public from accessing that resource.

In regards to Matt, the beef is not that elk have value, and value correlates to habitat and leasing, but rather than the R3 circle of death (influencers, hunting non-profits, and outdoor companies) has so greatly inflated the value of elk so as to decrease hunting opportunity among the masses. Industry fat cats reap massive profits off our shared resources at our expense.

"Matt chastises "trophy" hunting. The reality is - hunters who are unwilling to harvest an immature/young animal do a lot for conservation. I wish MORE people had the idea that shooting a young 3x3 isn't great for the quality/quantity of game that exists. Not saying "grip and grins" are always perfectly/tastefully done, but I would much prefer to see someone proud of harvesting a mature animal than another "filled my freezer, not my best" post. I personally try to harvest only animals I am 100 % happy with - and more people doing that would be better than someone "getting meat ethically" for conservation in my eyes."

Matt chastises trophy hunting? He's a trophy hunter. His house is full of hides, racks, and horns. He holds out on small animals in pursuit of big ones. Where are you getting your information?

"Matt blames people for harvesting excessive game (more than they can eat). Personally - I try to buy B tags every year - and never fill them. I look at it as a small tax to ensure that a few more live, but I don't appreciate the state having opportunities to kill 10+ animals a year. Neither should he, and influencers killing big bulls/bucks on private do a lot less damage to populations than that does."

Matt has stated many times that areas offering female tags to keep populations in check is not what he is taking aim at, and that he fully understands it is sometimes necessary to kill a lot of animals in order to accomplish that aim. The beef is killing for content. Your argument is a straw man.

"Criticizing main stream people like Bro Jogan who hunt isn't going to help anyone. I get that Joe professes a lot about hunting - and hunts managed private land - but anyone who is an advocate for hunting is someone I consider an ally. People who otherwise wouldn't hunt, appreciate hunting, or otherwise loathe it - have had their opinion changed, I have seen direct evidence of it. I don't care if Joe Rogan is a perfect ambassador for hunting (who is, by the way?) if he is advocating for more elk - what is the issue?"

The issue is that supply of elk to hunt is vastly outstripped by the demand of elk hunters, and Rogan has the largest platform to promote elk hunting. Sure, it's great that Rogan enjoys hunting, but Rogan will never feel the effects of over-promotion of the resource - he can just write a bigger check. Meanwhile, everyone else feels the pain of Rogan's promotion. Rogan's response: "Go find another trailhead." Rogan is completely out of touch of the realities of non-rich elk hunters, and his cluelessness is alarming due to the size of his audience.

"Point creep is an atrocious thing to blame on hunting advocates."

Matt does not blame point creep on hunting advocates. He does point to public natural resource profiteers as an undesirable contribution to point creep. In one of his episodes he claims demand for western big game hunting would not be so high if there was no promotion. His guest points out that the majority of demand exists because the resource exists and we have access to it, not because it was advertised. Matt does oversimplify a complicated market dynamic.

"All in all - I feel that Matt is a whiner. His complaints and frustrations need to be targeted at those managing the system - not those wanting to participate in it. I am certain that anyone who say a "Cam Hanes" or meateater hunt on youtube and is looking for the same experience will be really disappointed and won't be hunting for long anyway."

Everyone is welcome to their opinion. Food for thought: is hunting better off without Matt for ringing the alarm bell regarding the current state of market dynamics in hunting? I, for one, appreciate the opportunity to reconsider many things I have taken for granted for decades in regard to my own interface with hunting companies, hunting media, and hunting nonprofits.

I don't think Matt is categorically confused. Misunderstands several things, sure. Either way, it is obvious you didn't do your homework prior to posting.
 
perma said:
Thank you for doing this @Pucky Freak. While most of the accounted for content was rather hilarious, I definitely enjoyed @chatbot357 the most, as his direct and punctual posts were extremely formal and easy to read. I analyzed both threads thoroughly and determined that those replies were often manifested from chatgpt, a well-known artificial intelligence conversation generator. You may have noticed others using this same software to write poems about Matt Rinella and Cam Hanes.

I also have taken the observation that @chatbot357 finds the words "bro" and "bot" heinous, as his last post in fact had the word "bro" in it before he left. What I will also say, which I find rather ironic and funny, is that he left us with exactly sixty-nine (69) posts. I am not sure exactly if this was his intended exit strategy, but I will take this feedback and do some more research before drawing to a conclusion that he may have been, in fact, a meme-er.

Also, I miss JLS.....
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In the digital realm where forums thrive,
There lurks a figure named Harold357, so alive.
A personality unique, or so he claims,
Insisting he's human, not bound by bot frames.

"I'm not a machine," Harold357 would shout,
In every post, without a doubt.
Yet suspicions arose, a mystery to unfold,
For Harold357's denial seemed a tale untold.

He despised the word "bro," with passion extreme,
A linguistic aversion, a peculiar theme.
In the virtual corridors where conversations flow,
Harold357 stood firm, against that term's shallow glow.

"I'm no automaton, not programmed code,
No algorithms in my mind to erode."
But the forums whispered, in hushed tones,
Doubts persisted, like soft undertones.

Alas, Harold357's presence was but a fleeting spark,
A brief flame in the vast internet dark.
For all his protests and claims to be free,
Harold357 vanished, like a ship lost at sea.

In the archives, his posts echo faint,
A reminder of Harold357's short-lived paint.
Not a bot, he insisted with pride,
Yet, like the tide, he swiftly did subside.
 
Everyones entitled to an opinion. Some of what i said about Matt was unfair even bordering inappropriate. Wish i could write a better original post - but alas the internet is forever.

I won't, however, be silent where i feel his opinion(s) needs critquing. There's a lot of room for debate on his stances - just not on hunttalk.

The fact is he wants to be a gatekeeper to who should hunt and how. Do i think people that lease and hunt ranches should recognize they dont understand what it means to deal with public hunting pressure - sure. But i guess i have to ask - how the hell would someone with so much fame hunt public land in the first place? I have to imagine people already disturb people like fresh tracks. If i had money to blow plus the problematic fame to boot - i would probably hunt private leased land.

Not all of what matt says is "wrong" but ultimately find his message/delivery divisive at best...
 
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