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It stabilized great in my 8.5” twist Sunday morning. It shot the best I’ve had that particular gun shooting, which isn’t saying much because I just haven’t gotten to shoot very well. I think my wildcat was just running too much velocity to shoot all that well. The 156gr has slowed it down enough to make it look good. It definitely shows promise now. Time will tell. I didn’t have time to set up the chronograph, but suspect it’s in the 3050-3150fps range.Anyone shoot this bullet yet? Does the 1-8 stabilize it??
Interesting. Got a bunch of Hammers in various cartridges headed for North of Shelby. Snow happens up there on a sunny day. mtmuley
They thump steel noticeably harder at 750 yards compared to the 140 Bergers. The ballistics coefficient is holding true out to that distance for me. Hoping to test one out on an antelope this weekend if we don’t get to much snow
The downside of the short action 6.5's is not enough powder to push a big heavy long bullet like that to it's full potential. Kinda like driving V-6 mustang. It looks good but missing something under the hood. It's ok on the car as that power costs money/mileage and for a high school girl who drives it she will never know the difference, but on the gun the V-6 mustang (6.5 creed) is a choice you make.
Is it really that much heavier/harder on the wrist to cycle a long action like a man?
While I don’t think manliness actually factors in, I do think that the advantages of a short action over a long action are a little over blown. There are bullet weights and bore diameters that are probably better served by a little more powder capacity, and if that’s the direction that you wanna go, I don’t think you should get too wound up about sticking to a short action. Last time I checked, German Salazar completely tore up NRA High Power using a 30-06 to drive relatively modest BC bullets at little more than .308 Win velocities. Guess those long actions just suck.
Punching shoulders interests me a lot more than punching paper.
To each their own.
Dude, I was clearly kidding.I used to think short action rifles were unnecessary and the weight savings insignificant. I also used to think the answer to every rifle woe was faster velocity.
Now, having shot a short action of some sort for 39 years...and also shooting the magnums for a long time, I find myself gravitating more and more to short action rounds.
I much prefer shooting lower recoiling rifles, they’re just more fun to shoot. They’re easier on the budget, easier on the shoulder, easier on brass and barrels too.
From what I’ve seen, barely a nickels worth of difference between say how a 7-08 kills elk compared to a 7 rm.
I have no problem shooting magnums well, love my 7 rm and 338. Still have a soft spot for the 300 win as well.
But implying that you’re not a man unless you shoot a long action rifle tends to prove that you just like to shoot your mouth more than rifles. The short action rounds from 243 through 308 are mean rounds that kill the crap out of big game....efficient and effective.
The downside of the short action 6.5's is not enough powder to push a big heavy long bullet like that to it's full potential. Kinda like driving V-6 mustang. It looks good but missing something under the hood. It's ok on the car as that power costs money/mileage and for a high school girl who drives it she will never know the difference, but on the gun the V-6 mustang (6.5 creed) is a choice you make.
Is it really that much heavier/harder on the wrist to cycle a long action like a man?
So because German wasn’t a hunter he’s not a valid data point?
If a man can shoot 460 shots at 1000yds and only 11 fall outside of the 20” ten ring, and that comes from a long action, sling supported, with iron sights, then you can’t convince me that a long action isn’t good enough to hunt with just because none of those bullet hit an elk. No I’m not saying that’s the same as shooting an elk at 1000yds(not advocating it either) At a match you have wind flags, and typically 2-5 sighters before you start shooting for record. The point, is that the only meaningful differences between a L/A and a S/A are weight and bolt throw, and both are differences are minimal.
There valid reasons to go one way or the other in action length, but the short action crowd contains a lot of folks that will tell you that a short action is the only way to go. I own mostly short actions, but I disagree.