another great post.
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another great post.
brownbear932008
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Couldn't have said it better. And that third point is spot on. I'm not sure how one day your non essential and all of a sudden tax season arrives and your now essential. I think the following court case will prove they were wrong and the taxpayers will foot that bill also damn shame.
noharleyyet
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Not sure if that was a freudian slip or typo...but it's damn sure accurate.
VAspeedgoat
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Despite any beliefs or political leanings, I find it hard to believe some people have such a tough time showing empathy for people during a tough time. We've all lost loved ones and had to deal with that, can we not still feel bad when somebody else losses somebody? In this case we've all gone through tight times and have felt there's no end in sight. I know I have and have felt isolated and frantic. I know how it goes and the only thing I can say and mean it truthfully is it will end and things will be ok. I didn't say it won't suck or it will be better than before but it will be ok. Good luck to all of you out there.
Whenever I go through something rough I remember what Tarheels signature says. Something like, in the end it will all be alright, if it's not alright then it's not the end
Whenever I go through something rough I remember what Tarheels signature says. Something like, in the end it will all be alright, if it's not alright then it's not the end
brownbear932008
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Man your quick not sure how my phone confused anus and also. LOL
HONEYBADGER
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After reading this I think its perhaps a good thing he is going to try and shed some federal employees.
While I do feel for the people that have to go through this and it sux that they have to. They are getting paid back...eventually so it's not like they aren't going to ever get paid for their work still sux to not get paid on time though. At the same time they signed up for a gov't job, anytime someone signs up for a gov't job whether it be a desk job, field job, police, military you have to expect some kind of crap. Whether it be a shutdown, being sent off to a war zone, handling a riot at home, etc(and before anyone flames me on this, I currently family in the military and have said the same to them and they've agreed 100%). You know what you're getting into ahead of time basically, if you don't want to deal with it sign up for a different job but even that will have some crap you have to deal with eventually. What I find odd though is that if company ABC where to have a massive layoff or completely go under and thousands of people are without a job, no pay, some with no severance there is very little sympathy for that. Yes I know this post will ruffle some feathers but it's true, when a private company has to get rid of employees no one ever thinks about it(or them) and life goes on.
I will say this is one of the reason's why I hate our political system now. The 2 party system has to go, worked fine for 13 colonies but it sux now. Although as much as dems and reps hate each other they will never allow a 3rd or 4th or 5th party to gain any prominence which is really sad.
I will say this is one of the reason's why I hate our political system now. The 2 party system has to go, worked fine for 13 colonies but it sux now. Although as much as dems and reps hate each other they will never allow a 3rd or 4th or 5th party to gain any prominence which is really sad.
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BrentD
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I'd like to see the passing of a federal budget be like the election of the Pope. No budget on 10/1; all representatives and senators are locked in the Capitol until we see white smoke (ie a budget).
don't forget to lock the POTUS in there with them.
marshman
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I am surprised a little bit to see some support for this "Wall" on a site dedicated to hunters and conservation. A Great Wall along our southern border would be an ecological disaster for the desert ecosystems and the critters that inhabit that country.
No politics here just common sense. I do also feel horrible for the many hard working federal people that are just pawns in the DC politics game.
I hope they move soon... I cannot even get a National Forest map until this is done.
No politics here just common sense. I do also feel horrible for the many hard working federal people that are just pawns in the DC politics game.
I hope they move soon... I cannot even get a National Forest map until this is done.
From what I’ve seen these last two months of hunting, there already is an ecological disaster ln our public lands. The idea of ‘roadless/wilderness’ is a total joke. It might apply to you and me but not to the smugglers or the BP that chase them. There’s a whole lot of ‘pack it in’ and not a lot of ‘pack it out’.
Aside from the literal tons of trash, there is a serious amount of illegal off-road travel related to smuggling. You can see it on google earth when comparing legal roads on the travel plan to visible roads
Obviously a 2k mile border wall is not feasible or practical but there are places more could be done. Whether that’s additional physical barrier where appropriate, a high tech barrier of sensors( i don’t know what kind of tech is out there), or just more staff.
Hunting the OTC season in 40a and 39e, I’ve seen other hunters and law enforcement 0 times and people twice that are definitely smugglers and another guy that was highly suspicious.
I’ve reached out to the Wilderness Society 3 times to try to get assistance cleaning up trash in the Table Top Mountain Wilderness and they so far have ignored me. By assistance I mean help with communication to reach members in the area that might help, or try to coordinate with BLM. They’ve done a lot of whining about a garbage can overflowing at Yosemite, but thus far seem uninterested in helping with this. I could fill the back of my F-150 with black water bottles and camo backpacks in a couple hours within a couple hundred yards of the road by myself. It’s that bad where I’ve been.
Aside from the literal tons of trash, there is a serious amount of illegal off-road travel related to smuggling. You can see it on google earth when comparing legal roads on the travel plan to visible roads
Obviously a 2k mile border wall is not feasible or practical but there are places more could be done. Whether that’s additional physical barrier where appropriate, a high tech barrier of sensors( i don’t know what kind of tech is out there), or just more staff.
Hunting the OTC season in 40a and 39e, I’ve seen other hunters and law enforcement 0 times and people twice that are definitely smugglers and another guy that was highly suspicious.
I’ve reached out to the Wilderness Society 3 times to try to get assistance cleaning up trash in the Table Top Mountain Wilderness and they so far have ignored me. By assistance I mean help with communication to reach members in the area that might help, or try to coordinate with BLM. They’ve done a lot of whining about a garbage can overflowing at Yosemite, but thus far seem uninterested in helping with this. I could fill the back of my F-150 with black water bottles and camo backpacks in a couple hours within a couple hundred yards of the road by myself. It’s that bad where I’ve been.
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Southern Elk
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^Just noticed your location Gomer. Did you move south?
Southern Elk
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I echo what many of you have said. It's a damn shame that the politicians that we elect, on both sides of the isle, can't do their jobs.
I did. My wife is from here and got into grad school that we needed to relocate for, so here we are. It’s not Montana but it’s pretty damn good. Especially right now. 66 degrees and it’s the rut
Southern Elk
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I'm sure it's nice this time of year.
midwesterncrosshair
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Sadly some are living paycheck to paycheck, depending on on the location they live could really hurt them too.
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BrentD
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a lot of people might be doing no such thing but have their money in investments that have penalties to withdraw -which are worth incurring for an emergency of one's own making or bad luck. But to have to pay for being someone else's political football is quite another. Why don't you get this?
midwesterncrosshair
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Your right I don't get it... the government shinaigans that is.
I have a buddy in TSA that lived in Chicago and now works in Omaha, recently asked him how he was and he said if he was still in Chicago he would be screwed... that's all I'm saying by some are paycheck to paycheck (by location) I had to edit that. I personally avoid Chicago like its a plague but I still feel for the the workers up there that cant make it and all the others in the country. Like some have said before some are doing fine while others are not.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news...tsa-faa-shutdown-absences-20190114-story.html
I still don't understand how many presidents before said we need better border security, did nothing or minimal. This guy comes in wanting better boarder security and everyone's against it because its him. 5 billion seem like chump change compared to other things I've seen government throw money at.
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PrairieHunter
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Interesting to look back at the shutdowns since 1980. Appears to be something that should be expected moving forward for those who live here and especially those choose to work for the federal government. But in reality those short term financial challenges faced during shutdowns pale in comparison to the financial hardships those in the private sector face such as the likelihood of being fired, laid off or business owners who can lose everything. We all choose the paths we do and they all have risks/rewards, federal jobs sometimes lack either which has its good and bad aspects just like the other employers/occupations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_shutdowns_in_the_United_States
I've got to think this won't be the last under Trump.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_shutdowns_in_the_United_States
I've got to think this won't be the last under Trump.
BrentD
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Might be the last under trump. This one has to and did before the next 1 can begin. I am not optimistic.
