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    Quote Originally Posted by belshawelk View Post
    Lets stop all the madness. Being a 300Wm fan I think its a great cartridge, Maybe one the best all around. BUT it is not equal with the .30 Nosler in any category.

    At 300 yards

    300 WM 2526 Ft energy @2447PFS with 190 Gr Accubond
    .30 Nosler 3193 FT Energy @ 2617 FPS with 210GR Accubond
    300 RUM 3015 FP Energy at 2741 FPS with 210 Gr Accubond

    thats 25% more energy and 10% faster with a .30 Nosler 210 Gr vs. 300 WM190GR.

    The RUM and .30 Nosler are more similar. The RUM is a tad faster with the Energy going to the .30

    Not sure how you are getting these numbers. With the same bullet, the RUM is going to win in all categories. The .30 Nosler is just a short RUM. It is not possible to have more energy with less velocity out of a smaller case!

    I think a lot of the Nosler numbers are hype. It just seems to me that if a person is going to fgo to a fast 30, might as well step up to the RUM, especially with the Nosler brass and ammo issues.

    The only advantage that the Nosler has is being the same length as the Win Mag, but case diameter as big as the rim of the Win mag, so it still fits in a standard length action, at more cost, and less power than the RUM.

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    The RUM with the velocity you posted comes to 3504 foot pounds of energy.

    The Nosler is 3194, and the WM is 2526, as you already posted. The RUM wins handily and the Nosler splits the difference.

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    [QUOTE=mevertsen;2756254
    The only advantage that the Nosler has is being the same length as the Win Mag, but case diameter as big as the rim of the Win mag, so it still fits in a standard length action, at more cost, and less power than the RUM.[/QUOTE]


    I haven’t handled either of these. Why is a standard length action more advantageous than a RUM length set up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Addicting View Post
    Why is a standard length action more advantageous than a RUM length set up?
    No advantage. Percieved maybe, but in the hand, none. mtmuley

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    If you’re only shooting 500 get the 280 AI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtmuley View Post
    No advantage. Percieved maybe, but in the hand, none. mtmuley
    I should have clarified that. The action is 1/2" ? Longer than standard. And they both require 26" barrels to maximize it all. I agree with the perceived comment. But with higher costs than the RUM because of the name hype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JLS View Post
    If youre only shooting 500 get the 280 AI.
    That's no fun. mtmuley

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtmuley View Post
    That's no fun. mtmuley
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    Quote Originally Posted by JLS View Post
    So vanilla....

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    Sweet. You do know Remington's don't shoot, right?Glass? mtmuley

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    Quote Originally Posted by JLS View Post
    So vanilla....

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    ..subscribed

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    Double tap
    Last edited by JLS; 10-11-2018 at 09:02 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtmuley View Post
    Sweet. You do know Remington's don't shoot, right?Glass? mtmuley
    If its as bad as my Kimber I wont complain a bit. I pirated a Zeiss 3.5-10 off another gun for now. Ill buy a new scope next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JLS View Post
    So vanilla....

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    Sweet. Those mountain rifles are nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mevertsen View Post
    I should have clarified that. The action is 1/2" ? Longer than standard. And they both require 26" barrels to maximize it all. I agree with the perceived comment. But with higher costs than the RUM because of the name hype.
    All Rem 700 long actions are the same length regardless of caliber.

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    The 28Nosler is a great cartridge and really shines with heavier bullets. My 28 runs 195 Bergers at 3040 with 1/2MOA accuracy.
    Within 500 yards a 7-08 or 7mm rem Mag with a 160gr would be fine. The reason Ive got a 28 is for longer range and it serves that purpose very well!
    If you want a hot rod 7mm the 28 is awesome and will perform great to 500 yards and well beyond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JLS View Post
    If you’re only shooting 500 get the 280 AI.
    That is where I am back to looking at, but I haven't ruled out a .30 Cal as it supports a heavier load which is the gap I am feeling the need to fill. I did some searching on barrel life last night and was surprised how little barrel life was expected, the 28 Nosler on one of the other forums was averaging 600 rounds before it was time for a new barrel. As this will be a hunting rig I am sure that will stretch a little more. But with the initial cost, ammo cost, availability, and short life span the Nosler calibers are not really my cup of tea for my intended purpose.

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    If you put a bullet in the vitals, I don’t think the animal is going to care or notice there was a .016” difference in diameter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JLS View Post
    If it’s as bad as my Kimber I won’t complain a bit. I pirated a Zeiss 3.5-10 off another gun for now. I’ll buy a new scope next year.
    A kimber also! You're just asking for trouble

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    7 'Supa' Mashburn, the Wernher Von Braun of alpha chamberings.

    We can lick gravity, but sometimes the paperwork is overwhelming. -WVB

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    Quote Originally Posted by noharleyyet View Post
    7 'Supa' Mashburn, the Wernher Von Braun of alpha chamberings.
    Still have her huh. I’ve got a set of dies and brass laying around just can’t make my mind up if I want to do another or sell the dies and brass

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    Quote Originally Posted by brockel View Post
    Still have her huh. I’ve got a set of dies and brass laying around just can’t make my mind up if I want to do another or sell the dies and brass
    Spread the gospel...; )

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    Quote Originally Posted by JLS View Post
    If you put a bullet in the vitals, I dont think the animal is going to care or notice there was a .016 difference in diameter.
    It has more to do with the available bullet weights that the .30 offers. I already shoot 140g Accubonds from my Creedmoor and feel that covers Cow elk pretty well. But when I am looking at a large bull or hopefully a moose some day I want to get up into heavier weight bullets. The data is pulled from the Nosler reloading site.

    280 Ack Imp 120 Grain ( covered by my Creedmoor )
    280 Ack Imp 140 Grain ( covered by my Creedmoor )
    280 Ack Imp 150 Grain
    280 Ack Imp 160 Grain
    280 Ack Imp 168 Grain
    280 Ack Imp 175 Grain


    300 Win Mag 125 Grain ( covered by my Creedmoor )
    300 Win Mag 150 / 155 Grain
    300 Win Mag 165 / 168 Grain
    300 Win Mag 175 / 180 Grain
    300 Win Mag 190 Grain
    300 Win Mag 200 Grain
    300 Win Mag 210 Grain
    300 Win Mag 220 Grain

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    Not having shot these calibers before, what base weight rifle should a 300 Win Mag be? I've seen them from 6.4lbs to 8.1. All decked out I would like a rifle that wont break my shoulder as was referred to back in the belshawelk post. What should a finished weight be, 10-11 lbs?

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    300win is a good choice. Shoot 180 or 200gr Accubonds. I like the finished weight of a rifle to be close to 8-9lbs.
    What rifles are you considering?

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    Howa HS precision, Begera premier, Rem 700 build are my top 3

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