Come on Buzz, it’s 11 AM mountain time. Too late to still need coffee, too early to be shitfaced for Labor Day. Try to keep up. We are talking about ranchers not the USDA.
To further clarify in the most black and white terms possible for those apparently needed it, I am saying that before wolves were managed reasonably people were extremely frustrated and right or wrong- they were illegally killing wolves.
It will come as no surprise to me when ranchers, rural homeowners, etc shoot a grizzly bear in the head and leave it to rot. Illegal, disgusting, poaching, etc but not surprising.
I too think there will eventually be a hunt whether this year, next or in 5 years.
Last edited by MTGomer; 08-31-2018 at 12:16 PM.
“To me, if you don’t eat it, then it’s not a point of pride”. -Matt Rinella
"...the world outside, which my brother and I soon discovered, was full of bastards, the number increasing rapidly the farther one gets from Missoula, Montana." -Norman Maclean
"They were still so young they hadn't learned to count the odds and to sense they might owe the universe a tragedy"
-Norman Maclean
Actually, after the decision yesterday - that is one of the issues that irritates me. Both sides like to have it both ways - which is why you have to fall back to the laws and work within the system.
As a scientist, having decisions made by folks interpreting data with a limited knowledge set is very frustrating.
I've been an environmental scientist involved in remedial cleanup of hazardous waste sites for going on 15 years. Trust me, I have one guy saying that he'd drink a cup of the discharge from his plant (spoiler alert: he wouldn't) to people freaking out because there are high concentrations of dissolved metals in groundwater near their neighborhood (spoiler alert: they're on city water anyway) demanding that we spend millions trying to cleanup naturally occurring metals.
Personally, I think climate change is a much much much much larger threat to our ecosystems and hunting opportunities than not being able to hunt a handful of grizzlies every year, so I welcome all the staunch defenders of science-based policy to the fold.
In other news, young man who grew up on ranches working in western Montana tells about his first hand accounts of what ranchers illegally did to wolves is just a fairytale. Got it.
I’m going deer hunting.
Enjoy arguing where there’s nothing to argue about.
Enjoy your raise too......
“To me, if you don’t eat it, then it’s not a point of pride”. -Matt Rinella
In the interim, I would like to see all those who challenged the hunt to pay into a fund which the ranchers can draw from for livestock losses.
just the other night saw a blurb of a story with the photographer that drew and all they talked about that one sow it takes pics and some how 22 bears is a slaughter and never mentioned if sow shot gets shut down
Dems are the party of anti gun and anti hunting. What else is new?
After a weekend of getting rained on, this comment is as funny now as it was Friday.
The things I witnessed first hand didn’t really happen.
I just needed hours staring at the inside of a tent to reflect upon it to understand.
The things you can learn about your own past experiences from a .gov employee in another state.
Irony abounds
“To me, if you don’t eat it, then it’s not a point of pride”. -Matt Rinella
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe what that article doesn't mention is that this is only a 14 day 'stay' on the opening of the hunt. My money is that the hunt will happen in WY this year. The science is sound and the state of WY has done their job correctly.
Delayed for 2 more weeks.
https://missoulian.com/news/local/ju...a487818ee.html
Wood is Good treefarmsystem.org
Based on the judge's comments already you can see where this is headed. There will be no grizzly hunting anytime soon.
I agree with Honeybadger. The comment "irreparable injury to the plaintiffs" by the judge certainly seems to lean toward the plaintiffs.