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    Default Deer hunting on the CMR refuge

    Didn't deer hunting on the CMR used to close on or around the second weekend of November? Last year I thought I read it was the 12th or so . I was reading the CMR 2018 hunting regs the other day and it said no closure this year , open as long as state season . Was anyone aware of this and why would they do that ? I thought it was good that they closed it early

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    Looks like your correct, that'll spread some folks out. Just another golden opportunity to eff that deal up.
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    Just saw that. Wow.

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    Montana could could screw up a wet dream when it comes to managing mule deer!!

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    Hey its all about everyone having a chance. GMAFB...... no better yet give the mule deer a effn break.
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    The only benefit i see really is it'll spread folks out....
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    The discrepancy in season dates has been a point of contention between the Service and the State for years. Both agencies are under orders to expand hunting opportunities and simplify regulations, so this is the logical and foreseeable result.

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    logical would of been make the state season reflect the cmr season,,,,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by 300stw View Post
    logical would of been make the state season reflect the cmr season,,,,,
    Bingo . Only good thing , like stated above is maybe it'll be less crowded but who knows . I'm guessing the last few weekends of the season will be busy out there . I've never hunted on CMR, is it a place known for lots of deer and decent sized deer ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8andcounting View Post
    Bingo . Only good thing , like stated above is maybe it'll be less crowded but who knows . I'm guessing the last few weekends of the season will be busy out there . I've never hunted on CMR, is it a place known for lots of deer and decent sized deer ?
    Nope they're dead, all dead. With these seasons and proposed upcoming cwd hunts there won't be a decent deer to be had. I'm sure next year they'll up the tags and bring in a few more people too because it's the land of opportunity not quality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 8andcounting View Post
    Bingo . Only good thing , like stated above is maybe it'll be less crowded but who knows . I'm guessing the last few weekends of the season will be busy out there . I've never hunted on CMR, is it a place known for lots of deer and decent sized deer ?
    It’s a big place so that varies. There are places with deer and places that look perfect for deer but almost have none.
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    You can thank the Interior Department. I believe it is a result of this:

    http://mtpr.org/post/interior-propos...ldlife-refuges

    https://www.doi.gov/pressreleases/se...es-30-Americas

    Those deer will never catch a break.

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    Bigsky is correct. You can thank Zinke directly for this. He also opened up general elk hunting in 652, which I understand and agree with, but I’ve seen one elk in the unit in my life. Hardly something to hang a hat on.

    This simply checks their boxes of creating access. Quality of experience and wildlife habitat come in second.

    I will say the data doesn’t support the belief that it helps grow mature bucks, probably just too small of an area.
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    The bottom, bottom line is: The CMR becomes no different than any other piece of public ground? Other than maybe the deer get a break from semi restricted vehicle and ATV traffic, or am I just being oofta' naive?

    Truth is I want to hunt there, take a deer, and have no one ask," What did you shoot that for".

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    What really sucks in my opinion is the extra pressure it will add for those with the limited entry either sex elk tags. Before, you could always count on less pressure later in the elk season.

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    Another great point
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog0156 View Post
    What really sucks in my opinion is the extra pressure it will add for those with the limited entry either sex elk tags. Before, you could always count on less pressure later in the elk season.
    Yeh this was actually my first thought - this is area I apply in and have not drawn yet but hope to soon . I've been hunting cows on general tag in the area ( not on CMR but next to it) and am also worried about extra pressure . I always hunt later in the season , now I might be hunting around more people looking to fill their deer tag .

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    I believe the public comment period on the season being extended is still open.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schaaf View Post
    I believe the public comment period on the season being extended is still open.
    It's a done deal - comment maybe open but season is extended

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    This kinda stinks at least they didn't open it up to B tags. I'd rather seen them make the whole refuge same as prior North side regulations myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brownbear932008 View Post
    This kinda stinks at least they didn't open it up to B tags. I'd rather seen them make the whole refuge same as prior North side regulations myself.
    Here's a topic I believe the refuge would be wise to change. Right now it is only buck harvest. Why not open that up to either sex with your A tag?

    Ease some of the pressure on those young bucks.
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    That's incorrect. It is open to does on A tag .

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    And also it's open to whitetail b tags . No mule tho . https://www.fws.gov/uploadedFiles/20...04.18.2018.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8andcounting View Post
    That's incorrect. It is open to does on A tag .
    You're correct. I was mistaken. Was it that way last year? I can't remember and cant find my 2017 regs.
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    I'm perplexed as to why you guys are against the Feds relaxing regs and basically tossing management to the State? Can't the state reduce the season if management warranted? I would assume if they did the feds would go along with it. Thats how it works here. The seasons on refuges are in line with what the state's are, but the bag limit may be different.

    I find this strange that opportunity a bad thing? The state seems to think their management practices can support their seasons/bag limits.

    I'm also guessing that all the nay-sayers do not hunt mule deer after November 12, and will avoid the CMR in protest for the late season?
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