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    Quote Originally Posted by VikingsGuy View Post
    Thanks for the info. Not quartering to save $. Rather, have read best to get quartered and hide off and meat on ice as soon as possible to maximize meat taste. But we are in the learning process, so if this understanding is wrong I am open to learn.

    Also, how many pounds of meat (steaks, ground, etc) should I expect from 4 quarters + backstrap + tenderloins -- I am guessing 30 lbs from an average animal, am I in the ballpark?
    30 is about right
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    I treat antelope just like an elk or deer in the mountains and bone out in the field. If i want to do a full bone-in shoulder braise (currently one of my favorite recipes), I'll throw that in the game bag whole. Otherwise, standard bone out in the field on an antelope shouldn't take much more than 30 minutes. The meat starts to cool instantly, and you can leave the carcass in the field which is nice. I had a WY warden watch me from the road last year as I boned out a buck on a hillside (sidenote: he sat in his truck for almost an hour instead of walking the 300 yards as i took my time taking pictures and enjoying a beautiful day while field dressing). He was very concerned that I had left meat in the field and made me lay out all the pieces from the single large game bag i carried down. The reality is that a boned out antelope doesn't take up much cooler space at all, which is helpful if you are traveling far or flying. As far as weight, I weigh all my game bags when i get home. My average total boned out weight for doe antelope is 25-35 lbs, with bucks averaging 35-45lbs. My biggest buck boned out was barely 50lbs. Another reason i prefer boning even antelope in the field is that i find it much easier to carry a single ~40lb game bag back to the truck than trying to drag a full carcass back through the sage/through ravines/etc. Not to mention the processing fees saved.

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    What do you guys do to maintain proof of sex?

    I’ll be hunting a couple states and bringing a freezer/generator. I’d like to also bring my vac sealer and process the meat down to meal sized cuts. Legal or not?

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    Keep the butcher's thumb off the scale and buy a knife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntelopeSafari View Post
    What do you guys do to maintain proof of sex?

    I’ll be hunting a couple states and bringing a freezer/generator. I’d like to also bring my vac sealer and process the meat down to meal sized cuts. Legal or not?

    proof of sex while in the field up to the point it is processed into steaks. when skinning, you can easily, with a little care skin out and leave a nut or mammary, skinless and attached to a hind quarter. much cleaner than leaving hair on those parts. I would think if you processed in the field and package up all the cut meat, you could toss that evidence in a plastic bag and store with meat. never packaged an animal in field so check with a warden. If a buck gonna also have the skinned out head as proof of sex
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyS View Post
    Keep the butcher's thumb off the scale and buy a knife.
    It would be a brave butcher who would try to cheat armed men
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntelopeSafari View Post
    What do you guys do to maintain proof of sex?

    I’ll be hunting a couple states and bringing a freezer/generator. I’d like to also bring my vac sealer and process the meat down to meal sized cuts. Legal or not?
    I have thought about this also, I think if you shoot an pronghorn on a type 1 or 2 tag (any antelope) then proof of sex is moot and you just need to keep the head to show species. If you shoot a doe on a type 6 or 7 tag then you need to keep proof of sex, the regulations in WY don't specifically say it needs to be naturally attached like they do in CO or MT, so I think if you just kept the head you would be fine... to be safe I would probably cut and wrap everything but leave a boned out hindquarter with the mammary glad skinned out and naturally attached.

    "Retention of Evidence to Identify Sex, Species
    and Horn or Antler Development of Big Game Animal
    Harvested. Any person who takes any big game animal
    in a hunt area where the taking of either sex, species,
    or antler or horn development is controlled or prohibited by
    regulation shall comply with this section while said animal
    is in transportation from the site of the kill to the residence
    of the person taking the animal, or delivered to a processor
    for processing.
    (a) In hunt areas where the taking of any big game animal
    is restricted to antler point or horn size by regulation, the
    antlers or horns shall accompany the carcass, or edible portions
    thereof.
    (b) In hunt areas where the taking of any big game animal
    is restricted to a specific sex of animal by regulation, either
    the visible external sex organs, head or antlers shall accompany
    the carcass, or edible portions thereof.
    (c) In hunt areas where the taking of a species of deer is
    controlled or prohibited by regulation, either the head or
    the tail of the deer shall accompany the carcass or edible
    portion thereof as evidence of the species taken."

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    Quote Originally Posted by wllm1313 View Post
    I have thought about this also, I think if you shoot an pronghorn on a type 1 or 2 tag (any antelope) then proof of sex is moot and you just need to keep the head to show species. If you shoot a doe on a type 6 or 7 tag then you need to keep proof of sex, the regulations in WY don't specifically say it needs to be naturally attached like they do in CO or MT, so I think if you just kept the head you would be fine... to be safe I would probably cut and wrap everything but leave a boned out hindquarter with the mammary glad skinned out and naturally attached.

    "Retention of Evidence to Identify Sex, Species
    and Horn or Antler Development of Big Game Animal
    Harvested. Any person who takes any big game animal
    in a hunt area where the taking of either sex, species,
    or antler or horn development is controlled or prohibited by
    regulation shall comply with this section while said animal
    is in transportation from the site of the kill to the residence
    of the person taking the animal, or delivered to a processor
    for processing.
    (a) In hunt areas where the taking of any big game animal
    is restricted to antler point or horn size by regulation, the
    antlers or horns shall accompany the carcass, or edible portions
    thereof.
    (b) In hunt areas where the taking of any big game animal
    is restricted to a specific sex of animal by regulation, either
    the visible external sex organs, head or antlers shall accompany
    the carcass, or edible portions thereof.
    (c) In hunt areas where the taking of a species of deer is
    controlled or prohibited by regulation, either the head or
    the tail of the deer shall accompany the carcass or edible
    portion thereof as evidence of the species taken."
    I had a game warden in Wyoming tell me that the proof of sex doesn't need to be attached. He said just drop it in the bag with the hind quarter. However, I leave proof of sex attached to one of the hind quarters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgarner View Post
    I had a game warden in Wyoming tell me that the proof of sex doesn't need to be attached. He said just drop it in the bag with the hind quarter. However, I leave proof of sex attached to one of the hind quarters.
    I’ve have asked two different wardens in NE Wyoming tell me the same thing about sex evidence. For my type 6 tags i just cut of the mammary gland off and kept it in a ziplock bag in the game bag with the quarters.
    Best to just give a call to who overlooks your area if more clarification is needed.

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    It says it has to accompany the carcass. Accompany means be with it. If it had to be naturally attached, then it would likely be worded differently.
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    Great info. Thanks for asking/sharing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cgarner View Post
    I had a game warden in Wyoming tell me that the proof of sex doesn't need to be attached. He said just drop it in the bag with the hind quarter. However, I leave proof of sex attached to one of the hind quarters.
    Just make sure the ziplock containing the antelope nuts doesn't smolder in a hot garage after the meat has been cut up and frozen... Don't ask!!

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    Wyoming used to require that proof of sex be attached to a part of the carcass, but a few years ago changed the Regulation so that all it has to do is accompany the meat. That's why the Regulation now reads like it does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelsearchin View Post
    Just make sure the ziplock containing the antelope nuts doesn't smolder in a hot garage after the meat has been cut up and frozen... Don't ask!!
    Take both nuts and make rocky mountain oysters
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnCushman View Post
    Take both nuts and make high plains oysters
    Fixed it for you

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