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    Quote Originally Posted by npaden View Post
    Iím not sure. I wasnít trying to fly above 400í but I may have. The top of that peak is 1,200í above the camp so I had to override the 400í limit as I flew up the side of the mountain. Itís pretty steep there so backing off just a little bit adds quite a bit of height.
    Correct me if I am wrong but the law is 400 feet AGL (above ground level) So as long as you were not more than 400 feet above what is directly below the drone you are fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schmalts View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong but the law is 400 feet AGL (above ground level) So as long as you were not more than 400 feet above what is directly below the drone you are fine.
    Not 100% correct....You also need to be within 400 feet of the AGL structure as well at all times. Example: So you are flying in a valley in MT and you want to see what is over the hill(structure)..your drone has to be within 400 feet of the hill(structure) all the way up. You can't stand in the valley, go up to 1200 feet and then start to fly toward the hill and then go over. That also means on the way down you need to be within 400 feet as well to the hill. Also, once you do hit the top of the hill, you can go up another 400 to top out at 1600.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schmalts View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong but the law is 400 feet AGL (above ground level) So as long as you were not more than 400 feet above what is directly below the drone you are fine.
    Yes, but with those kinds of slopes it gets kind of tricky to know really how high AGL you are.

    The clip of the folks climbing T-shirt the climb is 1,200' of elevation gain in 1/2 mile horizontally so every 100 yards I back away it gains 135' AGL. If you are already 100' AGL you would just have to back off 300 yards before you ended up over 400' AGL. The display gives you the current elevation of the drone and the elevation it is above where it took off, but it is just eyeballing it and guesswork to know how far AGL you are at any given time.

    Although I didn't intentionally go more than 400' AGL at anytime, I very possibly could have exceeded that.

    Flying in the mountains for sure is a LOT trickier than the flat lands where I live. The wind does a lot of swirling around and you are constantly trying to keep from flying into trees, etc. Obviously I wasn't very good at it since I crashed it and it was way beyond repair when I recovered it.

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    Some interesting perspectives given how many folks use other forms of electronic scouting.

    I'd love to pick up a mavic.
    God's trying to bless America, there's just too many people getting in the way.

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    Joined ya. Pulled the trigger... I've been wanting a higher end unit and dji seems to be that upper bracket.

    I went to Best Buy... Haggled forever over a Mavic Pro go package... They are overpriced. Saw another Mavic Pro deal on 4K4Less and tried to get Best Buy to match though they would not... Thankfully they didn't and I didn't buy. Later a buddy sent me this: https://www.walmart.com/ip/DJI-Mavic...More/744125943
    This is the platnium Mavic Pro with the "mega" package. It includes Google's, 3 batteries, 64g ultrahd...
    The Platnium is equivalent to dji's phantom 4 +. Or so some of the reviews state.it has been tuned 60% less db's, increased stability over the Mavic Pro.
    Anyhow, in the event you've not pulled the trigger, check out this deal. The best we've found thus far.

    Anyhow, for what it's worth.
    " There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people." - Theodore Roosevelt
    Live to work or work to live... Your choice.

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    Call the FAA. These days you need to be most of the way to a private pilot license to fly a UAV (not technically a drone unless itís a fixed wing) unless itís completely over your own property. 90% of the UAVs you see are being operated illegally. The FAA is likely the only agency with less sense of humor than the BATFE. Most states do not allow use of UAVs for hunting, and some donít allow them for scouting either. You can thank the asshats that just have to fly them everywhere for that.

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    Somebody flew one over my property last night. Not thrilled. I'm sure they have positive uses, but I don't care for the invasion of my space. If I own the air above my property, can I shoot one down? mtmuley

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sytes View Post
    Joined ya. Pulled the trigger... I've been wanting a higher end unit and dji seems to be that upper bracket.

    I went to Best Buy... Haggled forever over a Mavic Pro go package... They are overpriced. Saw another Mavic Pro deal on 4K4Less and tried to get Best Buy to match though they would not... Thankfully they didn't and I didn't buy. Later a buddy sent me this: https://www.walmart.com/ip/DJI-Mavic...More/744125943
    This is the platnium Mavic Pro with the "mega" package. It includes Google's, 3 batteries, 64g ultrahd...
    The Platnium is equivalent to dji's phantom 4 +. Or so some of the reviews state.it has been tuned 60% less db's, increased stability over the Mavic Pro.
    Anyhow, in the event you've not pulled the trigger, check out this deal. The best we've found thus far.

    Anyhow, for what it's worth.
    Sounds like an awesome deal...Enjoy the new toy ! I keep trying to get out flying, but house work and high winds keep getting in the way. Hopefully this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtmuley View Post
    Somebody flew one over my property last night. Not thrilled. I'm sure they have positive uses, but I don't care for the invasion of my space. If I own the air above my property, can I shoot one down? mtmuley
    If you heard it, it must have been low because at 2-400 feet you should not hear it. People need to respect other people whether flying for fun or a business. I doubt you can legally shoot it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MN Public Hunter View Post
    If you heard it, it must have been low because at 2-400 feet you should not hear it. People need to respect other people whether flying for fun or a business. I doubt you can legally shoot it down.
    Yeah I heard it and saw it with the naked eye. You are right people need to have respect. Some don't. Legal or not, that drone might not make it past my place again. mtmuley

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtmuley View Post
    Somebody flew one over my property last night. Not thrilled. I'm sure they have positive uses, but I don't care for the invasion of my space. If I own the air above my property, can I shoot one down? mtmuley
    Clay pigeon time I'm thinking my old 10 gauge goose gun with the 36" barrel

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtmuley View Post
    Yeah I heard it and saw it with the naked eye. You are right people need to have respect. Some don't. Legal or not, that drone might not make it past my place again. mtmuley
    Same. I would not be happy one bit to have an unknown drone over my property. Thankfully I'm on 10+ acres with two neighbors and border State Forest and Weyerhauser, soon to convert to public land trust. Flying around is a step out the door.
    If I knew it was not one of my two neighbor's drone... It may accidentally collide with a bunch of shot.

    A deffinate for all interested;

    https://www.faa.gov/uas/

    Do I need permission from the FAA to fly a UAS for recreation or as a hobby?
    There are two ways for recreational or hobby UAS fliers to operate in the National Airspace System in accordance with the law and/or FAA regulations. Each of the two options has specific requirements that the UAS operator must follow. The decision as to which option to follow is up to the individual operator.

    Option #1. Fly in accordance with the Special Rule for Model Aircraft (Public Law 112-95 Section 336). Under this rule, operators must:

    Register their UAS with the FAA
    Fly for hobby or recreational purposes only
    Follow a community-based set of safety guidelines
    Fly the UAS within visual line-of-sight
    Give way to manned aircraft
    Provide prior notification to the airport and air traffic control tower, if one is present, when flying within 5 miles of an airport
    Fly UAS that weigh no more than 55 lbs. unless certified by a community-based organization

    Option #2. Fly under the FAA's Small UAS Rule (14 CFR part 107). Under this rule, operators must:

    Register their UAS with the FAA as a "non-modeler"
    Obtain an FAA Remote Pilot Certificate
    Follow the operational requirements (PDF) of Part 107
    Does the new Small UAS Rule (part 107) apply to recreational UAS operations?
    Part 107 does not apply to UAS flown strictly for fun (hobby or recreational purposes) as long as these unmanned aircraft are flown in accordance with the Special Rule for Model Aircraft (Section 336 of P.L. 112-95). Visit our "Fly for Fun" webpage for safety rules and guidelines that apply to recreational UAS operations. The small UAS rule codifies the provisions of section 336 in part 101 of the FAA's regulations, which will prohibit operating a UAS in manner that endangers the safety of the National Airspace System.
    I was a bit bummed about no use in the Wilderness designated areas. Thought it would be a great way to preserve the memories and share with friends & family.
    It's (imo) the EXACT same thing as a video/photo camera, from an aerial perspective... Absolutely leaves the land untrammeled by mankind, etc. Fitting the opening statements of the Wilderness Act, though it is what it is.
    I somewhat consider this psychologically along the lines of the initial (and some remaining presence) disdain for snowboarding when they began taking to the slopes... Now? USA holds American, pride filled Olympic medals.

    In the end, there will always be bad apples and for those who disapprove, those bad apples will be their soapbox content to share.

    Edit: oh, in my prior post, my phone pulled an auto F-up and changed goggles to "Google's". Conspiracy theory as I type from my Google pixel XL phone... Haha!
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    " There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people." - Theodore Roosevelt
    Live to work or work to live... Your choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtmuley View Post
    Somebody flew one over my property last night. Not thrilled. I'm sure they have positive uses, but I don't care for the invasion of my space. If I own the air above my property, can I shoot one down? mtmuley
    I don't know, but it'd probably be fun to try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtmuley View Post
    If I own the air above my property, can I shoot one down? mtmuley
    This guy did. http://www.wdrb.com/story/30354128/j...hot-down-drone
    We have not reached ethical perfection in hunting. One never achieves perfection in anything, and perhaps it exists precisely so that one can never achieve it. Its purpose is to orient our conduct and to allow us to measure the progress accomplished. In this sense, the advancement achieved in the ethics of hunting is undeniable.
    - Jose Ortega y Gasset, 1942

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    Anxiously awaiting delivery of the drone... Several days remain, I've been watching various YouTube videos.
    Beginner guides for the Platnium
    Comparison guides for the various drones
    Videography edumacation

    For any who have the Mavic Pro, the Platnium model propellers are designed the same fashion. Apparently, these blades help extend the battery life (rpm's reduced) and reduce the sound db's.

    A nice option for anyone with the PRO to upgrade.

    I may have to work out the 2 year operator wrecking insurance... As I type this, I envision a wreck...it's a good arse kick of dinero though in this case and considering the operator, might just have to bite the bullet.

    I'll post up the three videos I found most worth my time.

    First one is a beginner guide to prepping from the box to the flight.
    He's a bit eccentric though he keeps it more entertaining than a power point instructor...

    " There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people." - Theodore Roosevelt
    Live to work or work to live... Your choice.

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    This one is a good comparison between the pro and the Platinum. It covers the sound , the RPMs and just the overall review of the two units. It also covers how to upgrade the pro with the simple aspect of swapping propeller blades. A pretty decent review and presentation.

    " There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people." - Theodore Roosevelt
    Live to work or work to live... Your choice.

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    And then of course there is Tom's guide. Always a go-to of mine for various electronic based items.

    He has a good review for the mavic pro series however this one I focused on the video / cinematic aspects using the Pro.

    " There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people." - Theodore Roosevelt
    Live to work or work to live... Your choice.

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    And... This one is amazing! Not that I would ever consider hoisting a drone to this elevation though this is flat-out amazing! I think it's over 8000'!!!
    " There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people." - Theodore Roosevelt
    Live to work or work to live... Your choice.

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    Just because I'm on a roll... Here is drone bait dropped surf fishing for tuna. Whoa! Haha! For shnitz n grins...

    " There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people." - Theodore Roosevelt
    Live to work or work to live... Your choice.

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    I'd love to hear the reports when you get comfortable with the mavic.
    God's trying to bless America, there's just too many people getting in the way.

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    A bit funny how the extreme right embrace things.

    Carry on.
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    To quote Ben Kenobi "this little ones not worth the effort"....
    God's trying to bless America, there's just too many people getting in the way.

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    Well, in my excitement looking for the biggest bang for my buck, I realized it came with 1 battery. Still a great price and may have still pan out to be one of the best values though not by much... Batteries are another $170 for 2. + DO NOT GET THE INSURANCE FROM BEST BUY!!! Direct through the authorized DJI advertised via DJI was 1/3 the price - $129 (or 169...don't recall the exact). Best Buy originally wanted $450, dropped to $399 to try and keep the sale. Thankfully, I did not. Insurance it a bit of a relief... for the investment. Full replacement - If I can retrieve it. Haha!

    It IS AMAZING! As much excitement I had to fly it - I was equally excited to land it and store it - to fly another day. Enjoy:

    Last edited by Sytes; 05-15-2018 at 06:45 PM.
    " There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people." - Theodore Roosevelt
    Live to work or work to live... Your choice.

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    Very beautiful countryside there!
    God's trying to bless America, there's just too many people getting in the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sytes View Post
    Well, in my excitement looking for the biggest bang for my buck, I realized it came with 1 battery. Still a great price and may have still pan out to be one of the best values though not by much... Batteries are another $170 for 2. + DO NOT GET THE INSURANCE FROM BEST BUY!!! Direct through the authorized DJI advertised via DJI was 1/3 the price - $129 (or 169...don't recall the exact). Best Buy originally wanted $450, dropped to $399 to try and keep the sale. Thankfully, I did not. Insurance it a bit of a relief... for the investment. Full replacement - If I can retrieve it. Haha!

    It IS AMAZING! As much excitement I had to fly it - I was equally excited to land it and store it - to fly another day. Enjoy:

    Nice location to fly !

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