This is merely a response to Northwoods Labs comment directed specifically towards myself.
We are all permitted to share our opinions, perspectives and positions, not "facts" as some nitpickers would manipulate and proclaim. This brief disclaimer is not addressed to the vast majority of HT'ers including Northwoods Labs. This brief opening statement is addressed to a few vocal people opposed to opinions that differ from their own referred to as, nitpickers.
Northwoods Labs,
I should have expanded on my opinion regarding, "not in my country". This is a constant due to the all or nothing mentality within environmental groups (generalized as I'm sure this does not include all...).
There is, again in my opinion, (not stating fact) such a hard push against domestic extraction of minerals valuable to the U.S. development of products and American family employment that if the ground is shifted, it is an environmental impact upon the land and thus, must not be.
This entrenched setting makes many of us who value domestic extraction and American jobs as well as these American's that value our outdoors, we put our hands in the air and say, wtf???
With any extraction there will be "environmental" changes... Be it a flower that will no longer grow or a lizard that may cease to be... In that area, (not extinction). There has the be a reasonable level of acceptance for temporary adjustment to the "environment" for the U.S. to extract minerals ourselves.
Reclamation, restoring our land once an x year operation completes... To many of us that refuse to join the entrenched warfare, we would better see "Multi Use" actually utilized. We would like to see more of the successful collaboration / stewardship programs implemented. We want safe operations. Safe to the environment as well as the American families supported by the employment opportunities that open because of the mineral extraction operations.
With that, an example as shared by Randy (Big Fin), the Stillwater Agreement. It brought great employment opportunities to the community in exchange for tighter than current laws regarding environmental impacts caused by the operation. This is what the "Can't we all just get along" (our wise, Dr. Baton King quote) crowd values.
To identify organizations that present the fight at all costs against domestic extraction, I've added a few quotes from certain groups.
https://earthjustice.org/climate-and-energy/oil-gas-drilling/infrastructure
https://www.sierraclub.org/policy/energy/fracking
I could continue to quote environmental groups though I believe this presents a response to your comment about my opinion.
Many support countering the loophole used by coal companies to reduce royalties paid to US, in no way are we opposed to regulations meant to protect our lands. However, the entrenched fight is not conducive to the value collaboration and stewardship, the Good Neighbor Agreements, etc. We want American jobs for our workers to support our families. We want renewable resources to support our future. We want mining of the materials required to manufacture the battery blocks necessary to store many forms of the renewable energies.
We are not entrenched. We seek compromise.
And for humor sake, "we" may equal myself and one other person in America. Though from those I speak with it may be one or two more than that...
BTW, I believe my comment about enviro hunt organizations was their partisan play that assisting in that entrenchment type mentality not completely related to the "not in my country" type mentality. Though I do believe it does attribute to sme extent.
Not directed towards you, Northwoods Labs and many HT'ers here who value each sharing opinions without the personal attacks and belittling attempts:
Nitpickers, pick away. Grammer run on sentence Nazis point out the grammatically challenged, etc. I'll be your huckleberry.
Do remember, these are my opinions on topics I believe are "Issues Facing Hunting". No problem if you agree, disagree, etc... If you find your time valued to the point of focused intent on my opinion, cheers to you. It is OKAY to share our perspective... Even in the wake of members such as Buzz and his other vocal minions, such as Onpoint. The world of forum internet posting.
This is merely a response to Northwoods Labs comment directed specifically towards myself.
We are all permitted to share our opinions, perspectives and positions, not "facts" as some nitpickers would manipulate and proclaim. This brief disclaimer is not addressed to the vast majority of HT'ers including Northwoods Labs. This brief opening statement is addressed to a few vocal people opposed to opinions that differ from their own referred to as, nitpickers.
Northwoods Labs,
I should have expanded on my opinion regarding, "not in my country". This is a constant due to the all or nothing mentality within environmental groups (generalized as I'm sure this does not include all...).
There is, again in my opinion, (not stating fact) such a hard push against domestic extraction of minerals valuable to the U.S. development of products and American family employment that if the ground is shifted, it is an environmental impact upon the land and thus, must not be.
This entrenched setting makes many of us who value domestic extraction and American jobs as well as these American's that value our outdoors, we put our hands in the air and say, wtf???
With any extraction there will be "environmental" changes... Be it a flower that will no longer grow or a lizard that may cease to be... In that area, (not extinction). There has the be a reasonable level of acceptance for temporary adjustment to the "environment" for the U.S. to extract minerals ourselves.
Reclamation, restoring our land once an x year operation completes... To many of us that refuse to join the entrenched warfare, we would better see "Multi Use" actually utilized. We would like to see more of the successful collaboration / stewardship programs implemented. We want safe operations. Safe to the environment as well as the American families supported by the employment opportunities that open because of the mineral extraction operations.
With that, an example as shared by Randy (Big Fin), the Stillwater Agreement. It brought great employment opportunities to the community in exchange for tighter than current laws regarding environmental impacts caused by the operation. This is what the "Can't we all just get along" (our wise, Dr. Baton King quote) crowd values.
To identify organizations that present the fight at all costs against domestic extraction, I've added a few quotes from certain groups.
https://earthjustice.org/climate-and-energy/oil-gas-drilling/infrastructure
<Insert info not avail via quote>
https://www.sierraclub.org/policy/energy/fracking
<Insert info not avail via quote>
I could continue to quote environmental groups though I believe this presents a response to your comment about my opinion.
Many support countering the loophole used by coal companies to reduce royalties paid to US, in no way are we opposed to regulations meant to protect our lands. However, the entrenched fight is not conducive to the value collaboration and stewardship, the Good Neighbor Agreements, etc. We want American jobs for our workers to support our families. We want renewable resources to support our future. We want mining of the materials required to manufacture the battery blocks necessary to store many forms of the renewable energies.
We are not entrenched. We seek compromise.
And for humor sake, "we" may equal myself and one other person in America. Though from those I speak with it may be one or two more than that...
BTW, I believe my comment about enviro hunt organizations was their partisan play that assisting in that entrenchment type mentality not completely related to the "not in my country" type mentality. Though I do believe it does attribute to sme extent.
Not directed towards you, Northwoods Labs and many HT'ers here who value each sharing opinions without the personal attacks and belittling attempts:
Nitpickers, pick away. Grammer run on sentence Nazis point out the grammatically challenged, etc. I'll be your huckleberry.
