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    My brother and I are looking to start applying for antelope in Wyoming. We are from Manitoba, Canada. We would probably be looking at trying to make it happen in 2019 or 2020. Have done some looking and research and have got it in my head that doing a hike in and tent camp hunt in Thunder Basin National Grassland in the SW corner of Unit 7 would be a cool experience. Thinking that we could collect a couple preference points over the next couple years and then have it be a sure thing when we decide to pull the trigger. I see that the unit is listed as having "difficult public access" but it seems like there is quite a bit of public land available. Am I totally out in left field or is this an ok idea? Any advice or info would be great, don't need any honey holes or anything and we aren't looking for trophies, just a cool backcountry experience. Thanks in advance.

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    If your liking the grasslands, and will have a couple points, why not look at 23?

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    There is a lot of area there where you won’t need a couple points. I’ve spent a lot of time looking at draws and there is a lot of 0 pp with good draw odds. Apply this year for one of the 0 pp +50% odds if you can. If you don’t draw one of those hunts you out the same as if you waited and just bought the point.
    http://https://wgfd.wyo.gov/WGFD/med...ONRES_2017.pdf

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    Just because it’s public doesn’t mean it isn’t landlocked by private land. It’s a problem in parts of Wyoming

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    Looking at the map that looks like a solid plan to me. I'd call the WGFD office in Casper and talk to the biologist for 7 to confirm the antelope population in that corner of the Grasslands. Also call the Forest Service office in Douglas and request the Motor Vehicle Use Map for that portion of the Grasslands. Maybe research a few other lower demand units as drawing odds can really change in a few years time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midwesthunter View Post
    If your liking the grasslands, and will have a couple points, why not look at 23?
    23 is mostly private land, other than up in the nw part and they decreased the tags for up there and made a Type 2 that covers the bulk of the unit and is for private land only. The Type 1 tag is doable if drawn, but it gets hammered now and is not typical antelope country that people think of for the most part.

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    Looking at the county roads and MVUM it doesn't look there are too many areas in 7 to "hike in" and get a backcountry experience. I have hunted a unit out there with less accessible land and still had a good hunt. I would definitely talk to the biologist though since in Unit 27 just to the SW the doe tags are private land only which could mean that the population was taking a big hit from hunting.

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    Hunted 27 this year national grasslands saw lots of antelope

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topgun 30-06 View Post
    23 is mostly private land, other than up in the nw part and they decreased the tags for up there and made a Type 2 that covers the bulk of the unit and is for private land only. The Type 1 tag is doable if drawn, but it gets hammered now and is not typical antelope country that people think of for the most part.
    Fat fingered it ment 27

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    You'd have a good time in 7 but like JDH said, packing in really isn't feasible. Unless it's totally on principle and you just want to do it for funsies. There are a million trails in the grasslands and you really won't be able to get into many areas more than a mile from a road.

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    At the risk of pissing a few people off, unit 26 is probably your best bet for getting away from roads and hiking in the grassland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 375H&H View Post
    At the risk of pissing a few people off, unit 26 is probably your best bet for getting away from roads and hiking in the grassland.


    Pm sent; you didn’t piss me off just piqued my curiosity!

    I hunted this a couple years ago and other than up by intersection of 59 & 385 didn’t see hardly any Nat’l Grasslands. Seemed like the bulk of that was 27 & 29.

    I hunted 7 in ‘10 and while there weren’t huge swaths of Nat’l GL there was a lot of great habitat and beautiful country in which to hunt! Lots of WIA land.

    Good luck coming down from up above, eh!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by efw View Post
    Pm sent; you didn’t piss me off just piqued my curiosity!

    I hunted this a couple years ago and other than up by intersection of 59 & 385 didn’t see hardly any Nat’l Grasslands. Seemed like the bulk of that was 27 & 29.

    I hunted 7 in ‘10 and while there weren’t huge swaths of Nat’l GL there was a lot of great habitat and beautiful country in which to hunt! Lots of WIA land.

    Good luck coming down from up above, eh!?
    When I was there a few years ago the Natl Grasslands in 26 held less animals that anywhere else in the unit.

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    Thanks very much for all the information everyone. I really appreciate it. Can do all the internet planning you want but hard to get an actual feel for the area unless you talk to someone who has actually been there. With the timeline being pretty solid at 2020 kinda thinking now we will shoot for Unit 27 with 7 as a backup. Hard to beat having all that National Grassland to roam around on. Will talk to the biologists for the areas and get their take. From the looks of the MVUM 27 isn't going to be a "backcountry" experience either. Oh well, can still camp out there. I don't have anything against roads but would rather not be overly crowded, maybe with some good map study we can find some hidey holes. Is there any particular reason Unit 27 takes 4 points to draw and 7 you can draw with 1? Just more accessible land makes it more desirable? Pretty preliminary planning right now so things might change down the line. Gotta start somewhere though. Thanks again everyone!

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    What is the hunting pressure like in 27 and 7? Lots of guys driving around?

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    Quote Originally Posted by propane_cooker View Post
    Thanks very much for all the information everyone. I really appreciate it. Can do all the internet planning you want but hard to get an actual feel for the area unless you talk to someone who has actually been there. With the timeline being pretty solid at 2020 kinda thinking now we will shoot for Unit 27 with 7 as a backup. Hard to beat having all that National Grassland to roam around on. Will talk to the biologists for the areas and get their take. From the looks of the MVUM 27 isn't going to be a "backcountry" experience either. Oh well, can still camp out there. I don't have anything against roads but would rather not be overly crowded, maybe with some good map study we can find some hidey holes. Is there any particular reason Unit 27 takes 4 points to draw and 7 you can draw with 1? Just more accessible land makes it more desirable? Pretty preliminary planning right now so things might change down the line. Gotta start somewhere though. Thanks again everyone!
    No, 27 won't be a backcountry experience. In general though, backcountry and antelope don't go together. If you want to walk in 5 miles somewhere, pick up a tag in 16.

    As for 27 versus 7, I'd say the amount of public land is the main reason. Although with how big 7 is, I don't know if 27 has significant more acreage of public land. 7 still has plenty.

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    If you go the second weekend you will probably have it to yourself. If a big buck is really what you are after getting there early and shooting it at first light on opening morning would be best.

    If you want to walk in and camp 27 and 29 both have nice areas for that. Not really "Backcountry", but nice experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keeptrying View Post
    If you go the second weekend you will probably have it to yourself. If a big buck is really what you are after getting there early and shooting it at first light on opening morning would be best.

    If you want to walk in and camp 27 and 29 both have nice areas for that. Not really "Backcountry", but nice experience.
    27 would definitely be a good camping experience. You may even hear some elk bugling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDH View Post
    27 would definitely be a good camping experience. You may even hear some elk bugling.
    Both have some amazing elk in a really cool environment. Can't wait to return.

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    This is a great reminder of how many awesome areas there are to hunt even w/o any points!

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    Hello! New member from Missouri here. Not trying to hijack this thread, but i've been doing my own research and would like to do the same hike in/out this year. Is there a reason no one has mentioned Area 29 for Thunder Basin? It seems like it has lots of public land with roads... Hunter success rate is in the 80%+ and looks pretty easy to draw a tag with no points. I'm still learning to decipher and pick apart the information regarding draw odds, so please excuse my ignorance.

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    Never mind. I looked closer and see you need at least a point or two for 29...

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    Be worth it. Lots of options though. Public and private tags? I think.

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    If the OP doesn't have any PPs now, he won't be hunting unit 27 for at least 5 or 6 years if he puts in for the Regular Draw since it took 5 PPs in 2017, unless he'd draw it in the Random Draw. Unit 7 would be doable in 2 or 3 years though.
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    Special is 100% in 29.

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