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    Default blackthorn 209 help

    either i am completely over thinking how to properly measure BH209 or I just have no clue. All the powder measurers i have seen available measure by grains. My fiance just got me my dream prohunter and i am really fearful of ruining it. please help!

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    volume measurement is fine...personally I'd stay away from max loads. You could pre-weigh charges at home on a reloading scale and use Blackhorn's recommendations

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    Just use a regular black powder volume measure. Blackhorn does not recommend more than 120gr by volume. Accuracy sweet spot for most is 100-110gr by volume.


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    I go by volume, I shot 120grs last year but have backed off to 110 for this season with no noticeable loss in accuracy. I doubt I could go back to shooting pyrodex after BH209. It's just so much easier to clean.

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    By volume.Mine likes 100 the best.

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    Where legal my load is 110 grains of Blackhorn and the 250grain SST w/ Harvester sabot (black)...it'll shoot 1" groups all day long. In weapons restricted areas I'm using 100grains with 295 powerbelts which I find accurate but not my preferred.

    Whatever you choose for a load use the hottest 209 primer you can like Federal 209 Magnum and stay away from "muzzleloader 209" primers as they are much too cold to get consistent ignition.

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    I feel a little bad, now after reading how simple it is. I plan on trying both blackthorn and IMR white hotz. Hopefully something either will show me some consistent groups.

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    Don't feel bad...better safe than sorry! I started shooting blackhorn and inlines a couple years ago after 20+ years of strictly only black powder in traditional muzzleloaders and I had to research the same thing. For ease you may find IMR white hots better but I feel like Blackhorn is a bit cleaner and offers ability to adjust your loads much easier.

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    I have always shot Triple 7 pellets until going on a hunt in Hawaii and knowing Blackhorn was the only thing I was going to be able to acquire there. Not only did it shoot well out of my rifle it was even cleaner than expected. I was able to shoot ten loads in a row with out any cleaning and there was no noticeable change in impact or difficulty loading. Shooting more than two rounds with Triple 7 would have required cleaning. I have a few pellets of Triple 7 and a pound of loose Triple 7 that I wont be needing now that I have switched to 209.

    I measure by volume out of a powder measure. I do have some of the small pre-loadable BH209 tubes with measurements on the side, but I have found that they do not seem as accurate. They work great for fast reloads, but I do not trust the markings on the side.

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    For best accuracy better than minutes of deer. I volume measure 5 times each one I actually weigh and see what it is then take the average of the five. I do this with each new pound of BH209. My gun cuts holes at 100 yards doing this . 110 grains by volume is usually at that 76 grains weighed. I put each eighed charge into a vial. Started doing this a long time ago.

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    Here's my setup, some cheap tubes I got on ebay, color coded for powder or bullets+cap, all stuck into an MTM shotgun case.

    Each charge is weighed on a cheap digital reloading scale.
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