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    Default Hunting with a knee injury?

    Chances are there's a good possibility that I tore my ACL this past weekend. Nothing confirmed yet but all the symptoms are there. Among other things, one of my biggest concerns is being able to hunt this fall. In doing some internet doctoring,it looks like once the swelling goes down you should be able to walk ok. I know if I had to get surgery now, it would definitely impact me this fall. My question is, anyone else gone through something like this? Am I crazy to think that I could put off surgery until after the season and get by with a brace and IB Profrun? Any advice would be great! Thanks!

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    It can most definitely been done. A good brace, a slow pace, lots of waddling,and some good, willing partners, https://onyourownadventures.com/hunt...ighlight=ovis2

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    Knee brace and trekking poles especially when going down hill! Good luck

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    Thanks for the link Ovis! Congrats on the great hunt! Gives me hope that I can have a portion of the success that you did!

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    Back in 2008 I got a hernia on a moose hunt, trying to throw a bag of someone else's meat into the back of a pickup. I then went on an elk hunt. Two of us had cow elk tags in NM, and wound up taking two cows a mile and a half from the road. That was a long day. Every so often I had to lie down and relax, so that the swelling would go down. It did not hurt, just kept swelling.

    Hobbling through the woods chasing elk beats the pants out of sitting on the sofa wishing you were hunting. Good luck. Let us know how you do.

    Maybe I'll see you out there. We have big game combo tags this year for MT.

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    Like the others have said it can be done. Get a good acl specific knee brace (not a mueller from walmart). Trekking poles are another good thing to have. Atleast one partner, definitely wouldn't go solo with an acl tear. Some good things to do would be a lot of stretching and leg strengthening exercises. Also take it easy and don't over do things that can make it worse.
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    I did it as well. Tore my ACL less than a month before my hunt in Idaho. I missed one day of work due to the swelling and pain, then went right back at it. Walking wasn't bad until I put my foot in a dip or something off-center. That would start to make my knee "give" and cause brief pain. Went on my hunt with a good knee brace and managed pretty well. As mentioned, downhill was the worst part. I never connected on an elk so I have no clue how it would have been packing any weight. As far as getting it fixed, I had the replacement done. Had a part from a cadaver put in. I was off work for 4 months, did my therapy, and it's as good as ever! Good luck!
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    I've done it with the massive Ibuprofen doses and made it thru an elk hunt in AZ and a muley hunt in ID. That was five years ago. FWIW, I developed bone on bone damage in both knees that DID result in my missing a late season No.Kaibab muley hunt and spoiled a SD pheasant hunt (couldn't walk). I had bilateral knee replacements two years ago. The left knee is finally feeling good, but I developed a staph infection in my right knee that required a surgery to remove the old implants and about a third of the bone in my upper tibia, 50 days of IV Daptamycin, and a third surgery to put in new implants. I'm 10 months past the the new implants and I'm still working to get strong again. I have an elk hunt at the Grand Canyon starting on December 1st and I'm going come hell or high water. My advice is to get the proper treatment and don't damage your kidneys from NSAID poisoning like I did. I can't take Ibuprofen now, and never should again. Just focus and do it and get healthy. GJ

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    I killed 2 turkeys one season on a broken foot crutching into the woods. Not exactly the same thing, but similar idea.

    Motivated people will always work harder in physical therapy and tend to recover more quickly. If you figure out the fine line between hurting and injuring yourself you can pull off a lot. Good hunting partners are basically a requirement when you aren't at 100%.

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    I am reading this while waiting for the DR to come and examine my left knee. This will be my 3rd time I have had to have surgery. Pretty sure I tore my miniscus again. Last year I hunted white tails on chrutches. Anything can be done it is just how much do you want it and are you prepared for the consequences if it should go south.

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    Had a significant bone bruise at bottom of right femur that extended several inches upward towards the hip. Never figured out how the femur injury arose as should have been memorable moment such as a vicious judo kick, serious car wreck or belly-flopping off a curb but I had spent the prior day in conference room meetings, sitting in taxis and airports and sitting on airplanes. Went to bed at 1am feeling tired due to long flight delays on both legs of the flight home and when my alarm went off at 6am I stood up only to fall over from pain almost going out the 2nd story window. Thought was a muscle cramp for a few seconds then as woke up a bit more I realized the knee joint was the source of the pain.

    I gutted it out 9 weeks before went to doctor and he spent 15 minutes manipulating my knee and said was not a joint issue so I went for a scan and that revealed the nasty femur bruise.

    I used a cane to take pressure off the right knee and the bruise resolved itself over the next few months which included 3 pronghorn hunts and my first trip on what became two trips to fill a moose tag. I had to move slow and be very sure of my footing since if my weight got directly over my right knee as was losing balance then was very painful for several minutes.

    My advice is if the doc says surgery is needed, book the surgery and if you miss hunts then you miss hunts. If the doc says the knee will mostly heal itself if you take things easy then avoid the surgery and get used to the new normal. I was not in good physical shape last fall due to inability to put full weight on my right knee for 8 months so I could not work out other than swim. Pain last summer and autumn plus stress from worrying I would end up in a pile on the ground like a turtle on its back plus degraded physical fitness made my hunts more of an ordeal than adventure.

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    My opinion is i would have your ACL fixed before season and rehab it hard for the next few months. If you dont you will find yourself putting undo stress on your other leg/knee to compensate for your weak knee. Your ACL is the main legimant in your knee and is the one that keeps everything in line and supports your knee

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    Good advice all around, thank you guys! I'm still waiting to hear from the Ortho Dr to set up an appointment. My fiancé isn't exactly thrilled with me either, as our wedding is in a few weeks. Should make for an interesting next few weeks!

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    I blew mine skiing in about 2002 when I was in my early 20's, finally got it repaired in 2009. It definitely changed the way I hunted, but I was still able to get out and do it, harvested a big horn ram the year before I went under the knife. I just knew there were certain positions I couldn't put my knee in or it would pop out. Hindsight I should have went in and got it repaired sooner as a good portion of my meniscus had to get cut away from damage over the years. I had it done in March and was 90% by mid summer. If you get it done listen to your Physical Therapist and do your exercises religiously.

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    I tore my meniscus in my good knee while coming out of this canyon packing a tahr. My leg had become like a wet noodle. This happened early on in my NZ hunt so afterwards all my hunting was limited to short distances from the vehicle and leaning heavily on a trekking pole. I still managed to arrow a nice Chamois, 2 Wallabies, and 2 goats.
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    Trekking. Poles.

    I've got less than great knees and will not go deep into the mountains without poles again.

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    I tore my ACL, MCL, and a meniscus back in my basketball days. Even if you put off getting it fixed, start rehabbing now. The stronger everything else in the knee is, the easier it is for any repairs to heal. Get fitted for a custom knee brace, you'll need it anyway. I had a patellar tendon graft and was playing baseball 3 weeks post-op and football at 4 weeks but doc wasn't happy with that. I still only have about 85% range of motion in that knee. Good luck.
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    I tore my ACL in 2011 at the age of 30. I got an Ossür CTS carbon fiber brace (one of the few braces rated for use in saltwater). I hunted Turkey with just the brace prior to surgery, and archery hunted after surgery for the next two seasons. I opted for the patellar graft option, as I am still very active in team and water sports. The cadaver option stretches after about ten years, and I couldn't see taking two of my hamstrings for the surgery. I planneed on pack hunting for at least the next 30 years. At 6 months, I was cleared by the flight doc to fly (which is amazing) and 1 year later, zero pain. I still have a nickel sized numb spot on the side of my knee, but played soccer, softball, wakeboarded, surfed and hunted without that brace after 18 months. Good luck. The post surgery pain is paralyzing, but only lasts a couple weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTHunter1321 View Post
    Good advice all around, thank you guys! I'm still waiting to hear from the Ortho Dr to set up an appointment. My fiancé isn't exactly thrilled with me either, as our wedding is in a few weeks. Should make for an interesting next few weeks!
    I hope yours goes better than mine did today. Looks like I get the knife again for the 3rd time, MRI on the 1st so see the extent of the damage and then scheduled for surgery. Good news is I should be back to normal by OCT, it's just going to take a lot more to get myself in a shape that's not round. Let us know you appointment went.

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    I did one season with a torn ACL. Elk in Cali, Muzzy hunt in Cali, and antelope in Wyoming. I wore a brace, the elk and antelope were no problem. The muzzy on the other hand was an issue. Rugged steep country, my knee locked up a couple times on some torn meniscus that was floating around. Fortunately I remembered what the doctor did when the initial injury happened and was able to fix it, pop it free, in field. Had I not been able to though there would have been problems. I got away with it because I was young and athletic.

    In retrospect, I wish I would not have pushed it and just waited to get it fixed. I probably caused more damage to my knee which although ultimately repaired by surgery, will impact me later in life, for the rest of my life.

    I was not using trekking poles, I should have, they probably would have helped. I use them now.
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    My appt is set for Wednesday...hopefully get a diagnosis then. I'm now able to "walk" with one crutch and can put some weight on it, although not comfortably. Right now my goal is to make it through my wedding without having a noticeable gimp. Fingers are crossed!

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    Wow, you still need a crutch this long after you screwed it up? Must have really done something. When I tore my ACL I missed one day of work because of the swelling and stiffness, then I went back and never missed a day until my hunt. It was sore and I took it easy with what I did, but no crutches or drugs. Just so you can compare, I work as a repairman at Caterpillar working on bulldozers. I crawl inside, under and all OVER them fixing what is needed. Not exactly a desk job!
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    Currently have torn meniscus and it is flipped. (Injury in May) Had an MRI. Initial swelling/fluid. But today I have enough motion that I am postponing surgery until after hunting season. Tore my other meniscus in Sept 2015 and had surgery in May 2016. I hunted elk in Sept 2016 and got around just fine. But this go around, I have a really good tag and don't want to risk it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z Barebow View Post
    Currently have torn meniscus and it is flipped. (Injury in May) Had an MRI. Initial swelling/fluid. But today I have enough motion that I am postponing surgery until after hunting season. Tore my other meniscus in Sept 2015 and had surgery in May 2016. I hunted elk in Sept 2016 and got around just fine. But this go around, I have a really good tag and don't want to risk it.
    My torn meniscus was flipped too, my knee would lock up and when I forced it to bend it would pop real loud, very painful too. I have no insurance and was contemplating going to Mexico ( I live on the border ) and paying cash. But while I waited for the extra money to come in, in time I walked it off. It's fine now, no surgery, still pops a bit but it's more of a click and doesn't lock up.

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    Tore my meniscus in 3 places last year in July, and had it operated on in August last year. Was able to hunt 6 weeks later in September. Ended up getting a deer and elk in 2 days. Feels great after a year now. Your body will tell you when you're doing too much. IMO and according to the ortho.

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