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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie_hunter_JD View Post
    We use ours for deer stalking, this is my bitch Ellie in front and my mates dog indicating sambar down the next gully. Attachment 80159
    Good stuff. That looks like a pointers pointing to me, but I'm colored by my world view. So would these two be indicators in the act of indicating??

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    Quote Originally Posted by onpoint View Post
    Good stuff. That looks like a pointers pointing to me, but I'm colored by my world view. So would these two be indicators in the act of indicating??
    In the Aussie/kiwi dog world we do break up the terms indicate and point.

    People are used to the front leg cocked, straight tail point of upland bird hunting as a "point".

    Whereas indicating is any form of clear air scenting, changes in their body or movements etc. that indicates deer.

    We train them to not lock up on point from when they first hit hot scent as the deer could be a ways ahead or moving and then you struggle to catch up. At the same time not all dogs point deer the same way they point birds. Mine is a great example. She does the classic point when bird hunting but is more an indicator for big game. And will become more rigid and slow in her movements when you're close. I prefer deer hunting with her as you need to have a stronger bond and level of understanding of your dogs idiosyncracies to be successful as opposed to bird hunting.

    This trip we both shot stags over our pooches, definitely wouldn't have got mine without Ellie!

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    "....indicating is any form of clear air scenting, changes in their body or movements etc......."

    Upland pointers will exhibit the similar behavior(s) - you can clearly tell when the head cocks high and forward, the gait becomes a smooth deliberate trot, and they hold back posture as they're advancing. My griffon/lab older girl is particularly fond of picking up scent and going into stalk mode... Very cool hunting ungulates and birds with the same dogs. All good stuff. Dogs, love 'em.
    Last edited by onpoint; 02-12-2018 at 04:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onpoint View Post
    Very cool hunting ungulates and birds with the same dogs. All good stuff. Dogs, love 'em.
    This in spades and triplicate!

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