Internationals eligible to apply for/ tags?

ljhoh · Feb 23, 2017

Hey,

I´ve seen a lot of Randys videos lately (bad idea, makes you want to go hunting very badly, while it is still half a year till the season starts) and I was wondering if it is possible for Europeans/ non-resident aliens to go hunt on your own on public land. I know from working as a huntguide in British Columbia that in Canada and Alaska you have to go through an outfitter (which I would like to avoid) to hunt. I also read through most of the regulations published for 2017 by the different states and couldn´t find an answer, neither did I on google.
Would be grateful if someone could clear that up for me!
Cheers,
Ljhoh

Big Fin · Feb 23, 2017

Yes. Search some of the threads by Devon Deer (Richard). He is a Brit who has shown very well how it can be done.

Good luck.

ljhoh · Feb 23, 2017

Great thanks for the help Big Fin!

kansasdad · Feb 23, 2017

In Kansas, we have two classes of folks wanting to hunt.....residents and non-residents. Oklahoma or Iceland, or Australia, you will be treated the same: non-resident.

I think one tricky part of international hunting travels is the importation of firearms, and bringing them back. Be sure that you understand each nations regulations, and the rules of your air carrier to not throw a kink in your travel plans.

HalfAce · Feb 23, 2017

If you don't live in the state, you are considered a non-resident, whether your from another state or another country, your simply a non-resident.

Kiwi · Feb 23, 2017

You're right Canada and Alaska have guide rules, but these don't apply in the lower 48. As stated you're just 'out of state'. I've had some experience, as an international, hunting in Wyoming and happy to answer any questions if I can help.

devon deer · Feb 23, 2017

Just replied to your pm, before i read this thread, looks like i replied correctly!
Any questions get in touch and i will do my best to help based on my experiences.
Without this site, Randy, and others help i would have found it difficult, they are a great bunch on here.
Cheers
Richard

Tiredofthebickering · Feb 23, 2017

ljhoh said:
Hey,

I´ve seen a lot of Randys videos lately (bad idea, makes you want to go hunting very badly, while it is still half a year till the season starts) . . .

I can't help, but I can relate to this! ha ha. I must have watched a dozen of this episodes on YouTube over the last couple of days and I'm hurting to hunt bad!

Magnum Sherpa · Feb 23, 2017

Kiwi said:
You're right Canada and Alaska have guide rules, but these don't apply in the lower 48.

Unless you are a nonresident hunting wilderness in Wyoming.

LopeHunter · Feb 23, 2017

Kiwi said:
You're right Canada and Alaska have guide rules, but these don't apply in the lower 48. As stated you're just 'out of state'. I've had some experience, as an international, hunting in Wyoming and happy to answer any questions if I can help.

Except in WY where non-residents on some hunts in some portions of some units have to have a licensed guide or be with an approved resident. Anything you would want to hunt in WY has options where would not need a guide but WY has a guide requirement in limited situations related to wilderness designations. Frustratingly, if you fish in a wilderness as a non-resident then no guide needed. Or if go bird watching. Or hiking. Or camping. The wilderness is not scary then. Obtain a hunting permit though and you suddenly are in danger of screwing up so need a guide. WY provides welfare to guides with this socialistic attack on non-residents. Sad, really. Just sad.

sbhooper · Feb 23, 2017

LopeHunter said:
Except in WY where non-residents on some hunts in some portions of some units have to have a licensed guide or be with an approved resident. Anything you would want to hunt in WY has options where would not need a guide but WY has a guide requirement in limited situations related to wilderness designations. Frustratingly, if you fish in a wilderness as a non-resident then no guide needed. Or if go bird watching. Or hiking. Or camping. The wilderness is not scary then. Obtain a hunting permit though and you suddenly are in danger of screwing up so need a guide. WY provides welfare to guides with this socialistic attack on non-residents. Sad, really. Just sad.

Yep.

Gerald Martin · Feb 23, 2017

Wyoming requires a guide for nonresident hunters in wilderness areas. Alaska requires a guide for nonresident nationals for sheep, bear, and goats. Alaska requires a guide for non-residents from other countries for all big game hunting.

ljhoh · Feb 24, 2017

thanks to all of you for the almost immediate responses! This is my second day as a member of the forum and I thank you all for the great welcome!

Its great to hear that it is possible for internationals, and thanks for the advice on the different states. Already got my hunts planned for this season but will plan for next year! @ajricketts Yea haha that is exactly how I feel now!
@kansasdad I know of the issue with the firearms, but a bit of paperwork is not gonna stop me haha! In a worst case scenario I´ll go over to Canada and use my P.A.L and bring it in from there!

I´ve got a question for all the international hunters: How do you solve the trophy/hide issue? Do you just go through a taxidermist to get it back home?

Cheers!

shootbrownelk · Feb 24, 2017

LopeHunter said:
Except in WY where non-residents on some hunts in some portions of some units have to have a licensed guide or be with an approved resident. Anything you would want to hunt in WY has options where would not need a guide but WY has a guide requirement in limited situations related to wilderness designations. Frustratingly, if you fish in a wilderness as a non-resident then no guide needed. Or if go bird watching. Or hiking. Or camping. The wilderness is not scary then. Obtain a hunting permit though and you suddenly are in danger of screwing up so need a guide. WY provides welfare to guides with this socialistic attack on non-residents. Sad, really. Just sad.

I'm pretty sure that a non-resident can hunt birds & small game in wilderness areas. But they can't hunt big game.

glass eye · Feb 24, 2017

To apply for a tag some states require the purchase of a hunting license, pay to play with no guarantee of drawing a tag. Some states do not require the hunting license to apply, but all states require a hunting license when you are hunting. Be sure that you have an Internationally recognized hunter safety certificate, because if you don't most states will not issue you a license. I know a kiwi who had to come to the US a week before his hunt so that he could take the hunter safety class, it was the only way to get a hunting license. New Zealand firearm permits are not recognized as a hunter safety certificate.

ljhoh · Feb 24, 2017

glass eye said:
Be sure that you have an Internationally recognized hunter safety certificate, because if you don't most states will not issue you a license.

Well I have a German Hunters License I hope that is internationally recognized because it costs 1500Euros so about 1600Dollars...

devon deer · Feb 24, 2017

ljhoh said:
Well I have a German Hunters License I hope that is internationally recognized because it costs 1500Euros so about 1600Dollars...

In Montana (not sure about other states) if you were after before 1985 you don't need a certificate as above for rifle.
But, if you are archery hunting you will need to get a recognized qualification, the British Bowhunters certificate is recognized in the US from what i understand.

Cheers

Richard

Kiwi · Feb 24, 2017

Not sure how I forgot to mention WY's wilderness area restriction. The bear I was hunting solo was about 100 yards outside the wilderness boundary!

For my taxidermy I had all the work done in WY. When I was back 12 months later I built a crate with the taxidermist and I arranged shipping. Not cheap but they turned out great. Kinda like that the taxidermy work was done near where they were hunted. I'm getting a whitetail done now and will ship home later this year once finished (with this years trophies if I'm successful). I used http://www.coppersmith.com/ and will use again.

Heres my hunt / taxidermy if you're interested - https://onyourownadventures.com/hunttalk/showthread.php?265270-Elk-Hunt/page2

BTW - another option for the hunters safety certificate is to do it online.

Alpineman · Feb 25, 2017

glass eye said:
To apply for a tag some states require the purchase of a hunting license, pay to play with no guarantee of drawing a tag. Some states do not require the hunting license to apply, but all states require a hunting license when you are hunting. Be sure that you have an Internationally recognized hunter safety certificate, because if you don't most states will not issue you a license. I know a kiwi who had to come to the US a week before his hunt so that he could take the hunter safety class, it was the only way to get a hunting license. New Zealand firearm permits are not recognized as a hunter safety certificate.

This is my first post on this forum and I am from Australia, I noted with interest all the internationals on here. Not sure if it is customary to introduce myself apologies if I am supposed to. I just noticed that in Wyoming you need to have a hunter education certificate to bow hunt? If born after what year please? As I am bow hunting deer, elk and Pronghorn this September. Thank you.

devon deer · Feb 25, 2017

devon deer said:
In Montana (not sure about other states) if you were born before 1985 you don't need a certificate for rifle.
But, if you are archery hunting you will need to get a recognized qualification, the British Bowhunters certificate is recognized in the US from what i understand.

Cheers

Richard

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