Young Buck
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Floorless Tipi vs. Tent
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GlockZ
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for what it's worth, i've gotten into the habit of bringing about 1/2 dozen mouse traps with me, and setting them up around camp. those little bastard field mice can be annoying while one tries to sleep.
I'm curious as to what folks think of the light weight stoves? I'm leaning heavily toward the Seek Outside 6 man with half nest and titanium stove. However, the pipe that goes with the stove looks pretty flimsy and thin. I'm wondering if I'd be better off sacrificing some weight for a heavier stove. The stove won't likely be used while backpacking, so weight isn't really a huge factor. Would a larger pipe that nests together be better than the flimsy looking roll up titanium pipe. Also does anyone know if the stove jack that Seek outside uses will accommodate a pipe bigger than theirs? I don't see that info on their site. Any insight and thoughts are appreciated.
LuketheDog
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I bought the Cimarron/stove setup last season and I run mine the same way as this^
LuketheDog
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The pipe is just fine, just learn to set it up the right way...
Where you will really appreciate the stove is in the morning all of your stuff will be dry and your boots won't be a block of ice. I can remember having to flex my boots by hand to get them pliable enough to put on in the mornings. You can dry them out at night by the stove and get right in them in the morning.
Yes, we have had no problems with the pipe on our TiGoat cylinder stove. Works as stated.
RockChucker30
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We use grade 2 Ti for the stoves and pipe, melting temp of over 3000 degrees. You won't get a wood fire that hot. The pipes work very well and have for a long time.
The jacks will accept bigger pipes. 4" at least on all of them, up to a 5" on the largest shelters if you're careful trimming the hole out.
That's exactly what I was hoping to hear. Thanks
I was toying with the idea of going floorless until a Colorado hunt last year. It rained hard one night and the entire area had a half inch of standing water for a while. We did think about this before pitching as well, it just rained that hard. It also illustrated the importance of the “tub bottom” feature of the tent, which I will also make sure all future tents have a good one of.
Epfd217
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This again is a non-issue if you don't set up your tent where water pools. I've been camping for decades and never had my tent sitting in a pool of water. A buddy had a similar thing happen and was surrounded by water. It was poor site choice for sure and the ground was dished out. Some people insist on digging a trench. I say pitch the tent where water doesn't pool and there is no issue. We sat through 12hrs of rain last year and never had a drop inside the tent. Condensation was a greater problem than water running under the tent.
I don't offer my experience as a be-all end-all type of argument. I say it because I made all the same arguments as the naysayers just two years ago. I tried the floorless method and I will never go back. I've camped floorless with mice, bugs, rain, snow (both falling snow and during the winter) and everything the people who use these tents said would happen did happen. All the negative nellies who provide rebuttals based on their fears (like I did) were proven wrong. Its a near perfect system.
A floored tent has its place, but I will use the floorless at least 75% of the time now, if not more.
If the mice can do that much damage, do you really think that you're going to "seal them out" with a thin layer of nylon?
