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  1. #76

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    Do horses currently have any predators in the wild? Seems like domisticated horses are so far removed from the epoc in which they evolved that nothing really targets them. I would assume wolves would go after them but given the fact that horses gained a massive foothold in North American when both wolves and lions were ubiquitous it would seem that neither of these predators really target them????
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    Quote Originally Posted by wllm1313 View Post
    Do horses currently have any predators in the wild? Seems like domisticated horses are so far removed from the epoc in which they evolved that nothing really targets them. I would assume wolves would go after them but given the fact that horses gained a massive foothold in North American when both wolves and lions were ubiquitous it would seem that neither of these predators really target them????
    Some herds get a noticeable amount predation on foals by mountain lions. But, for the most part I don't think they have much to worry about from predators in the places they are normally found.

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    I'd eat one... Horse tacos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wllm1313 View Post
    Do horses currently have any predators in the wild? Seems like domisticated horses are so far removed from the epoc in which they evolved that nothing really targets them. I would assume wolves would go after them but given the fact that horses gained a massive foothold in North American when both wolves and lions were ubiquitous it would seem that neither of these predators really target them????
    Bears, wolves and especially cougars.

    Wolves are very effective in targeting foals. I've watched a herd lose all its young one summer (8) to a small pack of wolves.

    Cougars, in particular adult males, may become horse killing specialists. Mature male lions can effectively target and kill adult horses, in particular in areas with heavy cover.

    The ability for predators to target horses is yet another factor that negatively effects native wildlife. The additional food source that horses provide allows for a larger predator population to exist.

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    They need to start a testicle festival. Good food, beer, and a little nudity, it might bring them together.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/today/inde..._wild_hor.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobG View Post
    They need to start a testicle festival. Good food, beer, and a little nudity, it might bring them together.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/today/inde..._wild_hor.html
    I'm down with all all that as long as it isn't in Portland... I don't need to see any of that town naked.

  7. #82

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    I'd buy a tag and shoot one, but it will never happen. Can't be much different than shooting a zebra.

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    I could have easily filled several tags this season. Worthless is what they are !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt/VT View Post
    Based on some recent reading (American Serengeti by Dan Flores) I came to understand that horses evolved here, then migrated with a number of other species across the land bridge, went extinct in North America at the end of the Pleistocene and were then reintroduced when European explorers arrived.
    This doesn't change the current problem but makes me ponder the feral designation as well as management in light of other (more recent) reintroduced species.
    they left on there own ..were brought back by man so to me that means feral does it not ? cant wait to read that book everyone says its pretty dang good

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    ive done my part over the last several years,ive adopted 4 or 5 to domesticate,,,"not that easy",,my rodeo days are now past and I have only 1 mustang and a burrow now as my yard grazers.they do however "clip"the grass compared to cattle "pulling up".I agree that something needs to be done on the overpopulation problem,,,but with the wild horse legislation passed ,I think a hunting season on them would be pretty bad p r that would give hunters a "bad image".ive done my part though.

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    I saw these darn things as we were approaching the magic hour of deer hunting going to a waterhole covered in deer tracks during archery season. Needless to say the deer never came in. These things are everywhere in NV.

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    unfortunately,nevada has been stuck with probly 75-80% of the burdon.south east Oregon has also a lot of horses too.but as also said earlier in this one,if the horses are removed,they would likely add more cattle for grazing.this year I was in s e Oregon in silvies unit and found it is absolutly hammered badly by cattle overgraze,,,not from horses,even though wild horses roam in this area of the state. hopefully something can be figured out.until then,the deer and elk will suffer with degraded habitat conditions.

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    I would hunt a wild horse to help control over population
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    My horse-loving wife would be okay with me shooting one, but I don't think I could get her to eat any of it with me.
    "Ride due West as the sun sets. Turn left at the Rocky Mountains" Robidoux

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    I had to put down my 21 year old Arabian. Could not hunt them.

    If you have ever rode a horse, could you hunt them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbydean View Post
    I had to put down my 21 year old Arabian. Could not hunt them.

    If you have ever rode a horse, could you hunt them?
    Yes, I could. Rode a lot of horses and mules in the past 20 years. We own two of them currently. I could hunt a feral or wild horse for population control with no regrets.
    "Ride due West as the sun sets. Turn left at the Rocky Mountains" Robidoux

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    I have had to put down a couple of horses and it was painful for me long term. I would kill feral horses with no hesitation if legal for population control. I would not enjoy it one bit however.

    A relationship is developed over time with a horse much like a dog, but just because I love dogs does not mean I could never kill a feral dog.

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