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    The ram has to be 3/4 curl or better. I've heard from many people as well as the biologist that it takes about a six year old ram to get to that point. I'm looking for a good mature ram myself. As far as the access it's what you make it, a guy could really burn himself out quick if he just went wandering around. I use what trailheads there are to get the majority of the way in then climb up and up and up through whatever obstacles the tooths present. I know there's been guys a time or two get real lucky and just happen to be at the right spot at the right time and take a ram right off the trailhead. I sure would like that to happen sometime. I agree with Steve O, the guys that kill rams and multiple ones at that have got the system dialed. But, they have spent a tremendous amount of time getting to that point. Theyre still very humbled by the tooths though, because they've had their ass kicked more times then not. Don't quote me on my numbers but I think Atchinson has been a part of somewhere in the numbers of 50 rams taken by him and clients. That's absolutely incredible! Considering taking clients that for the most part have probably have never even endured something like that hunt. If the hunt interest you mixed bag I'd try it. If you don't end up seeing sheep you'll at least see some of the most beautiful country nature has you offer. Most guys try it and don't come back for whatever reason. All's I know is I got bit hard by the ram bug and it's given me a real sickness I can't get over. I think e one person who wants me to get one more then myself is my wife so ill stop talking about it to her. Haha, she about tunes me out now when I get going on it. Good luck to you if you want to try it I'm routing for you and whoever does it cause it's a real accomplishment when the stars line up and a hunter is successful.
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    I had the most epic time giving the 300 unlimited a try this year. I spent 7 days in there solo, most of it before the season opened. Saw ewes and lambs which I was stoked on, but no rams. Will be back every year I can - way too much fun. I've only been hunting three years and I am addicted. The unlimiteds may be the coolest opportunity hunt in the US.

    Here is a video I made of my adventure. No tag filled but an epic time nonetheless. You'll see I have my bow and rifle - next time I won't pack that much weight. The bow was in case I ran into a nice elk.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd1wBY0KF5s&t=3s

    Enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mixedbag View Post
    Is this even a realistic chance at success for a NR diy hunter?I'd lke to give it a try.How many miles in till your where the sheep are?? Love the otc opportunity for sheep.What are the quotas and are they always met??
    If you want to do it you should.

    Before deciding if you want to, I would recommend a week long scouting trip in August. Not to find sheep necessarily, but to get a realistic sense of the scale of the mountains and your ability to get around in them. Good way to figure out if it's for you without spending $1250

    Have you gone on backpack Wilderness hunts for deer, elk, etc or are atleast experienced in backcountry hiking/camping/fishing?

    There are hard unlimited hunts and really hard ones. The right way to do it is 5+ (10 is ideal) days during a period of mostly reasonable weather.
    Do your research, hunt hard, be smart and you'll eventually see sheep.

    Get good gear. Disregard People that say ' you don't need expensive this, or that nice of that' They would have literally gotten hypothermic and died with me twice already this year and several more times in the past few years. Most recently over the last few days. Buy nice shit.

    Get used to being alone. Unless you have friends with way more flexible schedules than me, nobody is going to continually go on a wild goose chase to Montana with you. I go with others sometimes and enjoy it when I do, but you gotta go when you can. Alone or not.

    Be able to tolerate being uncomfortable.

    Know your limits. I found mine Saturday morning in waist deep snow about 12 miles from the truck, with all known water sources frozen solid. Sometimes you have to retreat a bit and change your plan.

    If you are deathly afraid of heights, lightning, or grizzly bears( in that order) forget it.

    I think a NR has a plenty good chance. I ran into two guys from Colorado on opener nearly 20 miles from the trailhead right where I get into sheep, and they were onto a ram.

    It's pretty winterish this year.

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    Every once in a while I think about asking a friend about helping me with an unlimited sheep hunt. With his help I would have a good shot at punching a sheep tag. Gomer's pictures remind me of why I don't.

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    Was stuck in a pickle and opened this one the other day, pretty nice pics everyone, and stories too. It is amazing country, I headed up there full of piss and vinegar for elk a few years back, went in 12 miles or so which was my recovery limit with 1 llama and 1 dog as my packers... sucked ass for elk as there were wolves everywhere, but what an amazing place, at 12 miles in I was just getting started. I needed more of a pack string instead of just a single packer. I would have gone back better prepared if anything I had seen would have warranted another trip, but in the duration I never cut a track, found one rub from that year. Great rip for observing wolf pack behavior though. (Lester the llama didn't like them much)

    How in the hell... if you are twenty miles in can you be supposed to know the quota has filled, and what amount of prison time would you be sentenced to if you came out with an over quota ram to be checked in? Always wondered that after seeing the pure vastness of the country.
    Bestowing wisdom and moral purity, even on the unworthy and unwilling... especially upon them.

    An ignore list??? Wouldn't that defeat the whole purpose?

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    Satellite phone or texting function on DeLorme inReach

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdunc8 View Post
    Satellite phone or texting function on DeLorme inReach
    Not that those were in existence when I was in there or I would be able to figure them out now, as I still get my ass kicked by my cell phone 8/10 times, but OK. ( I didn't find out they took out the twin towers till almost October) And I thought finding and killing a legal ram would be the hard part! Gorgeous country if you can handle it though.
    Bestowing wisdom and moral purity, even on the unworthy and unwilling... especially upon them.

    An ignore list??? Wouldn't that defeat the whole purpose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTGomer View Post
    If you want to do it you should.

    Before deciding if you want to, I would recommend a week long scouting trip in August. Not to find sheep necessarily, but to get a realistic sense of the scale of the mountains and your ability to get around in them. Good way to figure out if it's for you without spending $1250

    Have you gone on backpack Wilderness hunts for deer, elk, etc or are atleast experienced in backcountry hiking/camping/fishing?

    There are hard unlimited hunts and really hard ones. The right way to do it is 5+ (10 is ideal) days during a period of mostly reasonable weather.
    Do your research, hunt hard, be smart and you'll eventually see sheep.

    Get good gear. Disregard People that say ' you don't need expensive this, or that nice of that' They would have literally gotten hypothermic and died with me twice already this year and several more times in the past few years. Most recently over the last few days. Buy nice shit.

    Get used to being alone. Unless you have friends with way more flexible schedules than me, nobody is going to continually go on a wild goose chase to Montana with you. I go with others sometimes and enjoy it when I do, but you gotta go when you can. Alone or not.

    Be able to tolerate being uncomfortable.

    Know your limits. I found mine Saturday morning in waist deep snow about 12 miles from the truck, with all known water sources frozen solid. Sometimes you have to retreat a bit and change your plan.

    If you are deathly afraid of heights, lightning, or grizzly bears( in that order) forget it.

    I think a NR has a plenty good chance. I ran into two guys from Colorado on opener nearly 20 miles from the trailhead right where I get into sheep, and they were onto a ram.

    It's pretty winterish this year.

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    Gomer: give us a gear list or a bag dump of what you have to survive 5+ days at 10,000 ft. Boots, pants jacket, etc, for when the snow falls and the temps follow.
    Thanks

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    Speedo, Knife, Moccasins, Satchel.
    Ain't doing half bad for a half full glass - Drake White

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    I have really good gear and have back packed hunted a bit,not 10+ miles though.I've done Alaska 3x so I can handle being away from civilization,grizzly for neighbors and constant rain/being wet.I would be happy just to find sheep and get to watch them do their thing.Seems odds at finding a legal ram is extremely slim.Do the sheep tend to frequent certain mountains??How much hunting pressure do you run into?If I lived close,I could easily see getting addicted to trying to fill one of these tags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tradewind View Post
    Gomer: give us a gear list or a bag dump of what you have to survive 5+ days at 10,000 ft. Boots, pants jacket, etc, for when the snow falls and the temps follow.
    Thanks
    Boots: in order of weather from fair to terrible;
    La Sportiva Trango Cubes
    Schnees Granite
    Saloman ice climbing/mountaineering boots of some sort. Not even sure the model. They’re old.

    Pants:
    Merino Long Johns, Sitka Timberlines, Sitka Kelvin puffy for glassing.

    Coats: a mix of kuiu kenai, superdown, Sitka kelvin, timberline, Patagonia, or even a spyder ski coat.

    Dakine snowboard mittens, Smith ski goggles

    Hilleberg tent.

    Rabbit bomber hat Warmth and top tier style!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EYJONAS! View Post
    Speedo, Knife, Moccasins, Satchel.
    Fireball whiskey, medical grade bud, Starbucks via coffee. Crocs.

    Iím joking. Maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTGomer View Post
    Fireball whiskey, medical grade bud, Starbucks via coffee. Crocs.

    I’m joking. Maybe.
    Don't forget the latest edition of hustler from the Flying J
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    All kidding aside, if it's something you want to do mixed I'd give it a shot. If Your confident in your gear and yourself and know how to keep composure in the backcountry I'd do it. My gear list reflects gomers pretty much, some things are different but about the same. Your right living close to the unlimited unit's makes it easy to get pretty addicted. I am having to take a little mental break from it right now and get my wife and kids out this weekend then hunt with dad and uncle next week for elk in the breaks (lucky pricks) drew their rifle tag. I'm just a packer again for the 4th time.
    Ain't doing half bad for a half full glass - Drake White

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    Quote Originally Posted by EYJONAS! View Post
    Speedo, Knife, Moccasins, Satchel.
    You're too funny

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    Man it’s a tough year. Went out again recently a few times.
    By this time last year I’d seen 9 rams, 6 of them legal. And 40+ ewes. This year I’ve seen 6 ewes and lambs.

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    Just curious. Which Hilleberg tent is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim/Wa View Post
    Just curious. Which Hilleberg tent is that?
    That is the Akto. If you have the extra money and donít mind the extra pound or two Iíd recomend the Soulo, but for what it is the Akto is great.

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    Headed in for probably my last round of sheep for the season, weather doesn't look to great but this is time I got. I might just turn it into a back-country ski trip and take my snowboard!
    Ain't doing half bad for a half full glass - Drake White

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    Better take a snowmobile!
    "The mountains are calling and I must go." - John Muir

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    I think most people’s seasons are about over in 500 and 501. There is over 30 inches of snow at the trailheads on the front.
    55” at Fisher above Cooke and the snowtel is nowhere near the top.

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    Im gonna second gomer, there was a solid 30 inches at our trailhead and a half mile up the trail it gradually turned into chest deep. Anyone thinking of hitting the backcountry needs to be careful and prepared. Hopefully these snows don't end up trapping a bunch of sheep. A storm like this could really put the hurt on them. Looking forward to next season.
    Ain't doing half bad for a half full glass - Drake White

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    Too bad. I was really hoping to see at least one of you guys get into them this year after that quick start in the 300's. I guess I'll have to live through you next year, unless I bite a really big one and go at it one of these years. I'd better make a decision though as I'll be 60 next May!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonedave View Post
    Too bad. I was really hoping to see at least one of you guys get into them this year after that quick start in the 300's. I guess I'll have to live through you next year, unless I bite a really big one and go at it one of these years. I'd better make a decision though as I'll be 60 next May!
    The fat lady hasn't sang yet, but conditions are worse than average and making it tough out there for those who still are trying it. Couple more weeks. You never know!

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    I may have missed it in an earlier post, but were there any successful Unlimited hunters this season? In the 300s, etc.? Vicariously living through this thread until next year and I can give it a go.

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