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Old 05-23-2012, 04:56 PM
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Default H4831SC for 270 Win

Right now I'm loading IMR 4350 and I'm satisfied but I'm very interested in Hodgdon powder. I'm also working up a load for a another caliber right now and have been getting very consistent velocity and accuracy with H4350 compared to IMR 4350. So, I'm interested in looking at a Hodgdon powder for my 270. Just wondering if some of you have had good results using H4831SC for a regular 270 Win? Or, what powder you have had the best results with for a 270? Gracias!!
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Old 05-23-2012, 05:28 PM
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I worked up a load for my .270 in 1973--57 grs. of IMR-4831 with the 130-grain Nosler Partition in Winchester-Western cases. I know there are lots of newer powders on the market today, but I never found a reason to dabble with them for this rifle. I killed seven North American rams with that load.

Allow me to add that if H-4831SC had been available at the time I would have tried it, and you might want to try it yourself. The regular cut H-4831, which I happily use in a number of cartridges, fills a regular .270 case to the point where you have a compressed load. Good luck!
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Old 05-23-2012, 05:43 PM
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I shoot the regular H4831 in my 270 and get great results with the 140gr AccuBond.
The sc and regular are the same formula just different lengths to ease measuring and fitting it in the case, so it should work great.
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:37 AM
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H4831sc shoots very well in my .270 with 130gr bullets. IMR 7828 shoots about 150fps faster, but does not have quite as good accuracy.
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Old 05-24-2012, 10:04 AM
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My buddy also uses H4831sc behind 130 grain Hornady SPs with under MOA accuracy in his Ruger M77.
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Old 05-24-2012, 11:02 AM
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H4831sc is my 'go to' powder for my 270s. I'm mostly loading 150 grain NPs but occasionally 130 grain Sierra GKs. Very happy with the results.
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:47 PM
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Been loading 60grains of h4831 with a 130 gr nosler for years.shoots very well in a couple 270s
that i have.I know it might be too hot for your gun but that is in my opinion the powder for the 270.
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Old 05-24-2012, 07:11 PM
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Here is burn rate chart and it shows H4831 burns a little slower than IMR 4831 which might give you a more uniform pressure range in your gun improving accuracy or could work against your set up. The only way to tell is to try them. The only thing is...I don't think there is that much difference between these two powders to make much of a noticable difference.
http://www.reloadbench.com/burn.html
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Old 05-24-2012, 07:29 PM
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I reload for my daughters Tikka T3, .270. I use 51gr of IMR 4350 and 140gr Accubonds. I also use it for reloading 130gr Ballistic tips (can't remember how much powder). I use a trickler and a digital scale to make sure each case has the exact amount of powder. Both bullets drive tacks and she shoots great out to 300 yards and I'm sure with practice, that range could be easily doubled. Good luck with your reloading and hope this helps.
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Old 05-24-2012, 08:23 PM
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Awesome info. Thanks guys. This forum is a great resource! Out of curiosity, how many of y'all shoot the 130 grain bullet for elk?....
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:22 PM
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3 shot group below case is 57.5 gr RE22 130 gr Nosler BT WLR primer Once fired brass



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Old 05-24-2012, 09:32 PM
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LOL. Looks like a 7 or 8 shot group to me.
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:41 PM
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...trust me.
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:58 PM
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Out of curiosity, how many of y'all shoot the 130 grain bullet for elk?....
I'm using some good old fashion Remington Core lok 130 grainers for my 270 WSM. So far I've killed a bear, dall sheep and cow elk with it. I'm shooting a Savage and it has been real accurate when put in a vise. Now me holding the bugger that's another story

Hopefully I'll have a picture of a nice bull this year using the same bullets, that is if I dont' launch a broad head at one first.

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Old 05-25-2012, 07:26 AM
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One elk and three muley bucks with my 130 grain nosler partitions.Thats not a great sample to
look at.And the number of whiteys is in the hundreds.I sent my scope,varix 3, to premier reticles in Virginia and they set my crosshairs according to my load and ballistics.We shoot a fair bit here just
practicing out to 1000 yds.They set crosshair marks or dots for that load at each yardage to 1000.I've been pleased with that,yet haven't shot any game over 400.That load of 60grains of H4831 is set for that
270 so I wont change,but it has been very good for me.It shoots 3/4 inch at 100,a mauser action on a takeoff stainless barrel.
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Old 05-25-2012, 07:32 AM
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4831Sc....I use 57 gr with a 150 ballistic tip. Very accurate load

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Old 05-25-2012, 07:35 AM
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And yes, I tried 4350 initially.

But 4831 shot much better in my gun.
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Old 05-25-2012, 11:30 AM
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Very fine group there Grady. My componets are the same as yours,cept I shoot the partition.I like that
ballistic tip too but had one disinegrate on a Kansas whitetail back in 2000.Never on a whitetail around here but those bucks out there are just bigger and that may have had something to do with that,and maybe my shot angle was tough.Anyway,nice shootin.
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Old 07-14-2012, 11:01 AM
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I've recently been messing around with RL17. It was designed for the short fat stuff but my .25-06 just loves it. Super accurate and even faster velocities than any other powder. Yesterday I shot my first loads in my .270 and it looks like it will be more of the same but I still need to work up to speed on this load.
Try it - you'll like it!
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Old 07-15-2012, 06:13 AM
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In my mind H4831sc is the gold standard for the 270. Most of the guys I hunt with have migrated to 140-150 grain bullets.
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Old 07-15-2012, 06:49 AM
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I have never loaded the .270, but I have to agree that H4831sc is a great powder. I loaded it in my 7mags a lot until I found RL22 and RL25. I would look real close at a load of RL22 in your rifle. It is real great powder. I use with my 139 grain Hornady loads for my 7 mag and also for 100 grain Hornady loads in my 6mm Remington. In the 6mm, it is easy to load it to 3000 fps and it can be pushed close to 3,200. It is a deer smoker, too.

Lots of good info on here from obviously experienced .270 shooters.
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Old 07-16-2012, 08:23 AM
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This morning I shot the RL17 again and I think I'll stay with IMR4831. It shoots 3/4 inch usually and always under 1 inch for sure. The RL17 has been consistently just over an inch.
I'll break out the crony in the morning......
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Old 07-16-2012, 09:21 AM
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My buddy is also using the 4831sc with the Hornday SPs and getting under MOA with his .270 Ruger.
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Old 07-16-2012, 10:15 AM
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This morning I shot the RL17 again and I think I'll stay with IMR4831. It shoots 3/4 inch usually and always under 1 inch for sure. The RL17 has been consistently just over an inch.
I'll break out the crony in the morning......
RL 17 seems to love the 06 case, but after playng with 5 or so pounds, I've only got two loads that I'm happy with, and one of those needs some work.

It's perfect for heavy for caliber bullets and does step it up to some impressive velocities, with little sign of pressure, but it also shows some pressure signs that should start to worry folks if they get too fast and furious.

It loves my 35 whelen, and it seems to think the 7mm mauser with 154's is okay (that load development will continue next week when I get back home). If I can get 2800 fps w/ the 154's out of a 7mm mauser, and keep it to an inch or so, then that'll certainly be the goto load. If not, then we're going to get the chamber ackleyed and set back a little to see if that will help the throat issue and get me back on track with it.

Might give the 4831sc a chance as well.
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:10 PM
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270 win with light bullets load IMR 4064 and with heavy bullets, load RL19.
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