JoseCuervo
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Is there something "sketchy" about it?
MT 680 ram (no photos)
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Is there something "sketchy" about it?
Not that I know of. The guy that shot it, though, said that he's "not into sheep hunting", and didn't want his name sent out in the story with the photos. New resident of Montana...first time applying for sheep.
Desert Sheep
Active member
There's a picture of the sheep, hunter and others on the B&C Trophy watch page.
"Hunter's name not disclosed"
Why would you let you face be shown in a pic if you aren't going to also include your name?
"Hunter's name not disclosed"
Why would you let you face be shown in a pic if you aren't going to also include your name?
BRWNBR
New member
the guide in the back is blake trangemoe, he's a guide up here in alaska for woods outfitting and a sheep nut. he said it was a new world record, but this was right after they shot it, things may have changed since the tape measure started hitting it.
yukonjacko
New member
A friend sent me this note which says it was written by John Lewton, I can't imagine John Lewton and the FWP biologist being that much different on their measurements, will be interesting to see what the measurements and final score is.
***************
Hi
Thought I would pass on a few photos of a RAM our hunter took yesterday
in the breaks. He does not want his name revealed as he is not into
sheep hunting and wishes to remain anonymous.
I found this ram before the season and this was the largest ram I had
ever seen in Montana . I was wishing I had a contact number for the
governor's tag holder. I found out that he had hired an outfitter and
not wanting to step on any toes I called a young man from Helena who had
stopped by the shop and told me he had a tag.. He was a new resident to
the state and it was his 1st time applying for sheep. I told him I had
found a very big ram and that he needed to come up and try to get it .He
told me he could not make it up as he did not have it in his plans . He
had some phone calls to make and he could come up on Wednesday
afternoon.
I was In the breaks filming a sheep hunt and had two friends
helping me James Reed and Blake Trangmoe. We decided it would be a good
idea to keep a eye on this ram until the hunter could make it up. James
went and camped on the ram and did not let it out of his sight for 4
days. He even slept on the hill with him. The hunter arrived on
Wednesday afternoon we headed in to meet with James and make a plan to
get on the Ram.
It was a 4 mile walk from the nearest road. James was
out of water and food and was glad to see us. We Quickly put together a
plan and made a run on the ram .He had a 300 yd shot but pulled it . His
gun was new and he was nervous as this was the 1st ram he had seen. The
rams ran out across a big valley and went over the ridge . We headed
back and would try to find them in the morning .We split up in the
morning and James spotted them not far from the last place we had seen
them the night before. He signaled us to come over. We tried to get a
shot at them and they blew out again but this time went several miles.
They were working their way through some low hills we made a run at them
again and once again did not get off a shot We followed them for a mile
and they slowed down and gave us a standing shot at 150 yards. He shot
again and missed and then took one more shot on their way out of the
canyon . James was still high pointing and once again saw which valley
they went into so we made a run at them again. By now it was mid day and
85 plus degrees and very hot in the canyons. We came into the next
canyon right on top of the rams and they were holding up in the shade.
This time his shot was just over 100 yards and he hit the ram. It ran
off but not far, laid down and it was all over. The Hunter had no idea
what he had and did not seem too excited but James Blake and my self
made up for that . We knew that this was a very special ram and would
help strengthen the Montana sheep hunting program and help bring more
money into the Mt. FWP program. Hopefully some day he will realize what
a great trophy he has taken and the effort it takes to find and take a
great trophy as this.
We Called this ram 44 magnum as I had guessed he was 44" long and the
magnum for, well look at the photos!
The Ram was all of 44" and had a base pushing 18". His 1st qtr was over
17" and his short horn was over 40".
I have not skinned off the head yet and will give you a green score when
I have a chance to put a tight tape on it .John Lewton
***************
Hi
Thought I would pass on a few photos of a RAM our hunter took yesterday
in the breaks. He does not want his name revealed as he is not into
sheep hunting and wishes to remain anonymous.
I found this ram before the season and this was the largest ram I had
ever seen in Montana . I was wishing I had a contact number for the
governor's tag holder. I found out that he had hired an outfitter and
not wanting to step on any toes I called a young man from Helena who had
stopped by the shop and told me he had a tag.. He was a new resident to
the state and it was his 1st time applying for sheep. I told him I had
found a very big ram and that he needed to come up and try to get it .He
told me he could not make it up as he did not have it in his plans . He
had some phone calls to make and he could come up on Wednesday
afternoon.
I was In the breaks filming a sheep hunt and had two friends
helping me James Reed and Blake Trangmoe. We decided it would be a good
idea to keep a eye on this ram until the hunter could make it up. James
went and camped on the ram and did not let it out of his sight for 4
days. He even slept on the hill with him. The hunter arrived on
Wednesday afternoon we headed in to meet with James and make a plan to
get on the Ram.
It was a 4 mile walk from the nearest road. James was
out of water and food and was glad to see us. We Quickly put together a
plan and made a run on the ram .He had a 300 yd shot but pulled it . His
gun was new and he was nervous as this was the 1st ram he had seen. The
rams ran out across a big valley and went over the ridge . We headed
back and would try to find them in the morning .We split up in the
morning and James spotted them not far from the last place we had seen
them the night before. He signaled us to come over. We tried to get a
shot at them and they blew out again but this time went several miles.
They were working their way through some low hills we made a run at them
again and once again did not get off a shot We followed them for a mile
and they slowed down and gave us a standing shot at 150 yards. He shot
again and missed and then took one more shot on their way out of the
canyon . James was still high pointing and once again saw which valley
they went into so we made a run at them again. By now it was mid day and
85 plus degrees and very hot in the canyons. We came into the next
canyon right on top of the rams and they were holding up in the shade.
This time his shot was just over 100 yards and he hit the ram. It ran
off but not far, laid down and it was all over. The Hunter had no idea
what he had and did not seem too excited but James Blake and my self
made up for that . We knew that this was a very special ram and would
help strengthen the Montana sheep hunting program and help bring more
money into the Mt. FWP program. Hopefully some day he will realize what
a great trophy he has taken and the effort it takes to find and take a
great trophy as this.
We Called this ram 44 magnum as I had guessed he was 44" long and the
magnum for, well look at the photos!
The Ram was all of 44" and had a base pushing 18". His 1st qtr was over
17" and his short horn was over 40".
I have not skinned off the head yet and will give you a green score when
I have a chance to put a tight tape on it .John Lewton
Schaaf
Well-known member
He must have been a really bad shot.....
Big Foot
Active member
Is anyone else having trouble viewing Oak's pics? I am salivating after reading the print but unable to view the pics?
Big Foot
Active member
Ha! Did not even think to look at date. Thanks!
Schaaf
Well-known member
This entire ordeal still makes me furious, on both sides.
Yep. Clustercuss of epic proportions.
Bugle 'Em In
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FWP spent A LOT of time & money on that whole ordeal. Anyone ever hear ho much estimated $ was spent????
Gerald Martin
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Nope. Out his $5000 and his horns. I'm normally pretty supportive of FWP law enforcement but this one was rank. This case should go down as entry #1 of how not to conduct a sting operation.
Horn Seeker
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I know there is a first time for everything, but the 18" number was completely unrealistic. 17 is insane. I bet when its dry it'll be more like 17 even, 17-1. but just my opinion.
I saw some kill stats a while ago and Im gonna try and look again to verify, but there was a FOUR year old ram that was 17X45... what the H?
Where did the pics go?
I saw some kill stats a while ago and Im gonna try and look again to verify, but there was a FOUR year old ram that was 17X45... what the H?
Where did the pics go?
The Hedgehog
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Several people should have lost their jobs over that one, starting with the guy on the left and running all the way up the flagpole.
What's that guy on the left doing now? Writing citations to folks wearing 390 square inches of orange?
What's that guy on the left doing now? Writing citations to folks wearing 390 square inches of orange?
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