View Full Version : Wyoming 2011 DIY

10-07-2010, 07:13 PM
I have 4 points each for deer, elk, and prongs in WY going into 2011 draw. Will likely try to draw a Type 9 archery only elk tag for area 37 in January. If that falls through, will try limited quota deer tag in 119, 105, or 118 as first choice. If none pan out, I'll be looking to hit the Greys River area in Region G for deer with general deer tag my second choice. If that falls through, I'll wait until I have 5 points and do it again in 2012. Don't know what the best use of the lope points would be at this time. Still researching. So far, I've discussed with all my hunting friends and no takers on next years trip. I guess everyone is either broke or they don't want to pull their ass up a mountain and eat instant oatmeal for five days. Anyone interested in joining me, and if you have points, lets talk. Still dreaming of that 180 inch mule deer every night before bed.

- Hitman

10-07-2010, 09:09 PM
Good luck with what ever you end up doing. I am going back to Wy in 2011 for the first time since 94. Will be taking my son for antelope around Newcastle. DIY all the way and there's lots to research.

10-08-2010, 04:18 AM
Newcastle and Sheridan have land owner lists with phone numbers that you can call for hunting access to private property. Many of the landowners I spoke with this past year are very kind and will let you hunt lopes and whitetail does. When we drove from Gillette up to Sheridan, there were lopes everywhere, but access to private property would make it nice. Good luck with the hunt and research.
- hitman

10-08-2010, 07:59 AM
I talked to the local game warden yesterday on the phone, extremely nice guy and bend over backwards to help. To me the name of land owners to try and what units to hunt. I was leaning towards 27 which is practically all public (thunder basin grassland) but it only has a 50/50 draw and the other units are 100% draw so he helped with it and the people I should contact in that unit. but I am waiting until November as it cattle time right now and they are pretty busy. Be sure to let me know how you do out there and good luck.

10-08-2010, 08:23 AM
Get BLM maps early - order them on line. Concentrate on getting private land access to ranches that abut the public ground in places that have no easy road access. One land owner I spoke with in the Sheridan area said that I could walk across his property (about 1 mile) to access the back side of 15,000 acres of public land, and that the nearest road access on the public side was about 5 or 6 miles. He even said I could put a tent up on his property right next to the public. I offered to give the meat to his church, which he liked. Leftover whitetail doe tags are avaible for $52 each. I spoke with one land owner who said he has 300 whitetails in his alfalfa field every night, and I can shoot as many as I want. He said if I bring my ground blind, he could put me at the trail where they enter his field and I would have non stop action for 2 hours each night. Nearby motel is $36 per night with Trout Unlimited discount. FYI.

- Darby

10-08-2010, 12:32 PM
You may want to look at unit 38 for archery elk. I hunted it his year and pulled the tag with three points (and the special license cost). The Hunting Fool ranked it higher than unit 37 for animal quality and access is great.

10-08-2010, 12:33 PM
yep did that today order the 3 maps for the units we are looking at. Can't be out there for the opening week as my other son is getting married and the wife would kind a frown on it if I weren't there. So will be hunting the 10th -15th. Going to be hard I know with them being chased all over already. Kinda hoping that the rush is over and they have a day or 2 to calm down but not banking on it.

10-08-2010, 06:16 PM
thanks mdhunter. I am hearing good things about 38. I want to avoid paying the special tag fee if possible. Any photos of terrain or tent set up would be much appreciated. Just trying to get an idea of how much gear to lug up there. Any problems with wilderness boundaries preventing you from pursuing game? Thanks. hitman

10-22-2010, 08:19 AM
If you have 4 points for elk put in for area 7 you will draw and there are some huge elk there. just my 2 cents.:D

10-23-2010, 09:49 AM
I am almost in the same boat. I am sitting on as many deer and elk points as you. I am debating what I want to do? The guy I normally hunt with dropped out buying points two years ago. Not sure if I want to go out on my own. Considered hiring a guide. Would rather go the DIY route if I could.

10-27-2010, 08:03 PM
I've also been building up the points. Now have 5 for antelope, deer, and elk. Thinking of sticking w/ the red desert units for antelope as it'll probably be my only chance to hunt one of 'em. Pretty certain I'll stick w/ one of the so called "trophy" units for deer (if there is such a thing anymore), use the points, then try to pull a region G/H tag when I can. There are quite a few people with the same amount of points though, so who really knows when a guy will draw.
hitman, if you end up putting in for 38 I'd like to keep in touch as that's probably the unit I'll put in for.

mdhunter, wondering if you harvested in 38 and what do you figure was the average size of bulls you were into? I applied this yr but 4pts in the regular draw didn't get me in. Maybe next yr...

10-28-2010, 08:02 AM
there are good areas in the state

11-28-2010, 09:52 AM
Anyone interested in joining me, and if you have points, lets talk.

See there is you problem. Don't be so selfish:D. Spread the point love.

I have your solution. Put me on your elk application.

I have 0 points, we then have 2 points.

Glad to have helped.




11-28-2010, 10:19 AM
Had a small problem counting bulls. I only saw 3. The 2 standing and the lower bedded one. I wanted the lower bedded one. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw this picture on the computer and saw many more.


1,2,3 has to be him.


Obviously need to watch my Seseme Street and the Count and learn to count to at least 11.

Big Fin
11-28-2010, 10:26 AM
I plan to hunt Wyoming elk again this year with two points. Not sure if I will be a as luck as ol' Dinkshooter in drawing these tags, but hope so.

Will hunt antelope again, even though I have no points. Just gonna be a left over or very marginal unit.

As far as deer, I have a better chance of winning the lottery, even with my max deer points. Not sure what WY has against me, but I have not drawn a first choice deer tag since I started applying in 1995, even with those expensive points I am accumulating.

WY is the one state I think non-residents can plan on hunting every other year, so long as they are happy with leftover tags or units that are not those published in the magazines. Left-over or marginal WY antelope every year is better than a Glamor Unit every ten years.

Probably the easiest state in the west to plan an On Your Own hunt. Good luck.

11-28-2010, 10:33 AM
Don't listen to Fin. I need back up there. I need redemption.

Big Fin
11-28-2010, 10:43 AM
Don't listen to Fin. I need back up there. I need redemption.

Here's an offer, Dink. I have been helping a few guys who have max points. You tell us where you took those pics and shot that bull, and we put you and I on their applications.

Redemption will be yours. ;)

11-28-2010, 10:57 AM
Done deal. Although, would you be uspet afterwards if I told you I drug the quarters to that bull 400 yards downhill to the truck?:D

Was my easiest elk pack ever!!

11-28-2010, 11:25 AM
I'm maxed on deer and elk in WY. A good place to be. DInk swindled :hump:me out of some of my antelope points in 2009 but turned out the be the best lope hunt so far. I provided the points and he knew the unit. good deal all around.

11-28-2010, 11:39 AM
Sheesh, you were even gyped out of a G3! :D

Nothing wrong with that bull...stop whining. ;)

11-29-2010, 11:46 AM
Nothing wrong with that bull...stop whining. ;)

I am starting to make peace with it, I do not want the elk gods angry at me. No one else was there, I was the dipschmidt:D

As mentioned above, I am also not above prostituting myself for group antelope applications as well:D

11-29-2010, 10:06 PM
I'm starting to lose faith in the system. Would consider splitting my 4 deer and elk points with someone who knows the Wyoming Range very well in Region G. Two nice CT State Troopers helped me harvest my second whitetail tonight by shooting a half road kill 5 point buck in the head to finish it off. Just got done carving up the loins, and I can't tell which freezer contains the rifle shot buck and which contains the trooper shot buck.

01-13-2011, 08:25 PM
TTT for Hitman to ponder. Or anyone else with max points:D

01-13-2011, 08:26 PM
Not many PM's hitting my inbox.

01-13-2011, 09:40 PM
How bout helping out another guy with no points? (0+0)/2 has to be better right?

01-15-2011, 06:49 PM
I'd be interested in hunting with you in Wyoming. Aren't you going to hunt Nebraska as well? I thought I remembered your username from that thread. Anyhow I'll be in the area from Aug-Nov hunting in WY, MT, KS, NE, mhungerford is right about unit 7 being one of the best blue chip elk units in the state that you would have about 50% odds of drawing with your 4 points. Plus you can hunt archery and rifle with that tag. Just my 2 cents as well. That is the unit I am waiting to hunt but I only have 1 point right now and it takes 5 to guarantee a tag in that unit. I have friends who guide in that unit and they have told me some stories of huge elk. That along with adequate access access to public land along with some walk in areas make it a good DIY hunt.

01-16-2011, 11:31 AM
"Not many PM's hitting my inbox."

Your shirtless picture is probably scaring away all the prospects, heh.

01-16-2011, 03:44 PM
I have 3 points and I don't mind hunting with most people.... yeah your picture does scare me a little...:D

01-16-2011, 03:50 PM
Your shirtless picture is probably scaring away all the prospects, heh.

It is not like a play the banjo or anything.

01-18-2011, 01:26 PM
Just starting to look into Wyoming and was wondering is it possiable to draw an archery elk tag for any units with say 1 or 2 points. I am not looking for accluminating lots of points just looking for units that may not get too much pressure from general tags.

01-18-2011, 02:29 PM
Yes there are several type 9 archery only tags that can be had with 1-2 points, especially if you spend the $ and get in the special draw. Looks like 36, 37, 39, 40, 56, 67-69, and general tags fall in the catagory of "should draw" with the special tag and units like 45 and 59 in the could draw category with at least 2 points. Honestly you are better off to get a type 1 gun license and pay the extra $30 and hunt during bow season as well. That way of you don't get one in Sept with your bow come back in Nov with your gun.

Topgun 30-06
01-20-2011, 10:39 AM
I think that's very good advice wyoming556! Draw a General tag with 1 or 2 PPs and buy the $30 Archery Permit. Then you have a good 6 weeks or more to fill the tag with bow or gun in a lot of different areas, rather than being tied down to one unit requiring a bunch of points to draw.

01-20-2011, 01:47 PM
Thanks Topgun. As far as the General tag in the reguar draw for NR random=25% and 1pt=100% and the special draw for NR random=100% and 0pt=100%. I read that last year on a special draw you can actually still get a general tag as 2nd choice and keep your preference points for next year.

01-23-2011, 02:37 PM
Hitman, I'm buying a point for antelope & deer this year. If this year doesn't pan out, I would be interested in going out in 2012. If anyone else is interested, send me a pm.

01-30-2011, 06:10 PM
What a bunch of pansies:D I guess everyone is escared of killing bulls;)

Topgun 30-06
04-24-2011, 03:11 PM
Dinkshooter---Thy're not scared of the shooting part of it! It's the getting them out to the truck part that set quite a few of the "wannabes" apart from the real hunters, LOL!!!

Big Fin
04-24-2011, 04:37 PM
Thanks for bringing this thread back to the top. I can feel a WY bull taking a victory lap in Fin's rig this fall. Now, big question is archery or rifle?

Guess it depends upon if I luck out and draw New Mexico, and if so, what season. Probably can set my WY schedule for late-September archery right now, given the odds of me drawing a third season archery tag in NM.

Topgun 30-06
04-24-2011, 05:03 PM
Big Fin---Are you trying for a Gila tag? I was back down there for a ML mulie hunt the end of October last year and it's some fantastic country. The last time I was in there was way back in the late 60s when I did some fishing there while stationed at Fort Bliss in El Paso. I had always wanted to get back into that country and finally made it last Fall. The nearest to there that I had been since the 60s was about 8 or 9 years ago up in unit 15 to the northeast of Apache Creek on a ML mulie hunt and there were plenty of elk in that area also. I think with the recent passage of the bill dropping the random nonresident tag numbers down to 6% and charging for a license in order to apply will knock more than a few hunters out of the running for tags in NM.

Big Fin
04-24-2011, 06:03 PM
Big Fin---Are you trying for a Gila tag?

Yup, me and about 5,000 other non-residents. Probably won't draw, but I know the draw odds if I don't apply.