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noharleyyet
11-05-2009, 08:23 AM
....finally bought another title. Hip, hip, hooray.:cool:
smalls
11-05-2009, 09:21 AM
At least I won't have to hear John Sterling for another 5 or 6 months. He is painful on the radio waves and he'll be even more pompous next year as the announcer for the defending world champs... yuck.
duckhead59
11-05-2009, 09:33 AM
yeah I guess...but the yanks are like a hunting show where an over hyped host shoots a 200+ wt on a double high fence property that raises 'trophy' game and you pick the animal by the price you pay...I mean...what's the point...of course it works?
noharleyyet
11-05-2009, 09:37 AM
.....shrewd my azz;)
Cashman isn't perfect — no GM is — but he certainly made the right choices last offseason when he spent a combined $423.5 million on Sabathia, Burnett and Teixeira.
He also made a shrewd decision the previous winter, when he declined to trade players such as Hughes and center fielder Melky Cabrera for Johan Santana, knowing an even better option — Sabathia — would be available as a free agent the following year.
JoseCuervo
11-05-2009, 10:37 AM
It is a glorious day in the Yankee Nation, the 27th Championship!!!!
And, a certain Sports Book in Nevada took a loss last night.... :D
smalls
11-05-2009, 10:59 AM
You bet the Yankees... what a brilliant sports mind you must be!
duckhead59
11-05-2009, 12:44 PM
My biggest interest in the yankees is Jobba Chaimberlin...he's a Husker...has a hell of an arm and I like his attitude...lol!
Nemont
11-05-2009, 01:56 PM
the Yankees also had the game's highest payroll in 2002, and they did not win the World Series then. They had the game's highest payroll in 2003, and they did not win the World Series then. They had the game's highest payroll in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008. They did not win the World Series in any of those years.
This season's iteration of the Yankees was different from all of those. Those clubs were burdened by the presence of vastly overpaid former free agents -- players like Kevin Brown, and Carl Pavano, and Jason Giambi -- who did not, by and large, live up to their considerable contracts. (It's worth noting that the club's payroll in both 2005 and 2008 exceeded this year's).
If one could buy a World Series then how come the Steinbenner's have spent over a Billion in Salaries perhaps since 2000 without a title to their name?
Nemont
noharleyyet
11-05-2009, 03:10 PM
If one could buy a World Series then how come the Steinbenner's have spent over a Billion in Salaries perhaps since 2000 without a title to their name?
Nemont
finally bought another title. Hip, hip, hooray.
smalls
11-05-2009, 03:32 PM
Nemont, the Yankees are playing by the rules allowed by Major League Baseball, but there is a definitive lack of parity based solely on a clubs ability (or willingness) to increase payroll. The fact that the Yankees won 2 World Series, appeared in 4 and played in 6 ALCS in the last decade is no coincidence. They bought the best players the market had to offer.
Teams with middling payrolls can indeed compete with high payrolls, but only for a short amount of time as young, inexpensive talent peaks. So in the American league you essentially end up with a cycling of upper-middle of the pack teams to compete with the Yankees every year.
So I would say that sure, you can't buy a championship but you can certainly buy a playoff spot annually.
Nemont
11-05-2009, 03:43 PM
I didn't say I loved the Yankee's. If they are within the rules and small market teams cannot compete then the rules need to be changed. All I said was to buying a title label gets old, if money bought the title then they should have won every year.
That being said the players still had to execute.
Nemont
MNHunter
11-06-2009, 09:59 AM
God I hate the Yankees. I hate the system that MLB has as well.
elkfarmer
11-06-2009, 10:09 AM
I am yankee fan thru and thru. But what i don't get is why everyone say they bought another title. Does everyone realize that Steinbenner isn't even the richest owner in mlb. There are owners that have more money but elect not to pay the players so its thier fault. Now don't get me wrong, i think it is discusting what the players make, but its not as lopsided as the figures say. Steinbenner wants to win and does what other owners wont, spend the money. And with all the money spent, where were they last year in october? What teams made it to the WS? Not the yankees....
I am yankee fan thru and thru.
scent control is a bitch aint it?
Bio Bo
11-06-2009, 10:15 AM
After it became 4-1, I didn't watch anymore except to check the score... hoping the Phillies could mount a comeback. I felt like the Yankees would win it, but I was hoping the Phillies could somehow beat them. Anybody but the Yankees!
JoseCuervo
11-06-2009, 10:22 AM
Nemont, the Yankees are playing by the rules allowed by Major League Baseball, but there is a definitive lack of parity based solely on a clubs ability (or willingness) to increase payroll.
Teams with middling payrolls can indeed compete with high payrolls, but only for a short amount of time as young, inexpensive talent peaks. .
What kind of Socialist are you that would attack our system of Capitalism? If the Yankees make more money and invest more money to make more money to invest more money, then more power to them.
If you want to be a Socialist, go move to France and learn to eat croissants.
I like croissants. I call them Freedom Biscuits, though.
duckhead59
11-06-2009, 10:54 AM
MNHunter...I'm with you...it's the MLB system that stinks...so much so that I cant hardly stomach the stuff. Anyway...it's football season...college and pro...so who cares about baseball...LOL ;)
smalls
11-06-2009, 11:10 AM
What kind of Socialist are you that would attack our system of Capitalism? If the Yankees make more money and invest more money to make more money to invest more money, then more power to them.
If you want to be a Socialist, go move to France and learn to eat croissants.
I, too, like croissants. The ones that pop out of the little blue can with a bit of sweet butter melting into them. Sometimes I make them with stroganoff (hamburger helper, naturally) to mop up the leftover sauce on the plate.
I'll give you some more brilliant gambling advice. Bet against the Browns, Raiders and Rams (albeit they all have byes this week). CarryOn Monsignor Touche.
duckhead59
11-06-2009, 11:18 AM
What kind of Socialist are you that would attack our system of Capitalism? If the Yankees make more money and invest more money to make more money to invest more money, then more power to them.
If you want to be a Socialist, go move to France and learn to eat croissants.
JC...you're just happy cuz you won money...lol
JC...I get so pissed about the misinterpretation of true capitalism. Actually, the idea of capitalism isnt the ability to spend more and more, and becuz you have money be more and more powerful...even though that seems to be the current usage/understanding (and part of our economic problems today)
The true meaning of capitalism is a system of free enterprise, where opportunity exists for new ideas, competition, increases in productivity, availability of capital investment etc to be brought to the market place and have an opportunity to prosper with rewards benefitting the system as well as the proprietor.
That is NOT the real world system we are living in today...examples, limited available capital, limited entry into many markets, corporate conglomerates so large they monopolize industries and the biggest is the 'leakage' of capital out of that system in 'huge rewards' to a limited few and not being reinvested back into the system for growth.
Another misnomer is that taxation is a symptom of socialism...nothing is further from the truth...taxation provides a means to develop the 'infastrucure' at all levels for the capitalistic society to flurish. The things that are too large, too expensive for the system to provide/coordinate on it's own. And those tax dollars are reinvested back into the system and spent to provide, re taxed and spent again...it's part of the 'velocity of money'.
Whew...:)
noharleyyet
11-06-2009, 11:23 AM
Here in Mother Texas we only recognize the seasons as Summer, Winter, Football, and Hunting.
duckhead59
11-06-2009, 11:26 AM
nhy...LMAO...I'm with ya there!
JoseCuervo
11-06-2009, 01:16 PM
I, too, like croissants. The ones that pop out of the little blue can with a bit of sweet butter melting into them. Sometimes I make them with stroganoff (hamburger helper, naturally) to mop up the leftover sauce on the plate.
I'll give you some more brilliant gambling advice. Bet against the Browns, Raiders and Rams (albeit they all have byes this week). CarryOn Monsignor Touche.
Hmmmm...... "stroganoff" and "Hamburg" ...... isn't that more of your Euro-Socialsit crap? People like you are why this country is in the mess that it is....
Duckhead,
Are you thinking a Luxury Tax is more Capitalism or more Socialism? I for one don't like the Luxury Tax in sports.
And, you are right about being happy I made money on the Yankees, although the Lakers only beating the Rockets by 1 kind of pissed me off when I had to give 2 points. Luckily the Warriors helped me out against the Grizzlies.....
duckhead59
11-06-2009, 02:14 PM
JC...congrats on the cash...lol...you win some and lose some...the trick is winning more than you lose...right?...lol keep at it...sounds like you're pretty good at it.
A luxury tax is purely capitalistic (and most dont realize it). they have been around for centuries and people used to 'bitch' but pay them as they realized "better to have and have to pay the tax" than the alternative. the more good furtune you have on behalf of the capitalistic economy (because lets face it, the capitalistic economy we have allows for the opportunity), the opportunities it brings and you are able to capitalize on, there should be a 'cost' (ie luxury tax) for the use of scarce resources and opportunity cost of those gains...everyone pitches in based on what they gain from the use of scarce and limited resources. If you dig into a little research the former President of AA has finally figured this out and is stumping for the fact that the ecomony as a whole allowed him to benefit (greatly) and he should be happy to pay the due cost of his accumulations....Warren Buffet has also commented to the same effect.
smalls
11-06-2009, 02:31 PM
Hmmmm...... "stroganoff" and "Hamburg" ...... isn't that more of your Euro-Socialsit crap? People like you are why this country is in the mess that it is....
People like me? Is that a racial slur? Or are you talking about my topical allergy to most non-salmonid fish?
Randy11
11-07-2009, 01:55 AM
Joe Po had a pretty good article this morning on it, about sums up how I feel about the whole thing, only you know, written wonderfully.
http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/11/05/the-yankees-payroll/
smalls
11-07-2009, 11:02 AM
Joe Po had a pretty good article this morning on it, about sums up how I feel about the whole thing, only you know, written wonderfully.
http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/11/05/the-yankees-payroll/
Spot on Randy. It's also cool to see another Joe Po fan. In my opinion, the best sportswriter in America today (even if his career outside of KC is still quite young). I used to enjoy Rick Reilly, but he has slid a long ways in a short time and Peter King sucks... plain and simple.
Randy11
11-07-2009, 01:22 PM
Posnanski is easily the must un-biased and well spoken sports writer in print right now.