View Full Version : Holy crap!! what a game!
schmalts
02-01-2009, 09:44 PM
I thought AZ had it, but too much time left on the clock i guess. Sorry Stan, it wasn't meant to be
IdahoBugler
02-01-2009, 09:51 PM
Great game up until the end. Man the Steelers got some breaks. Dang AZ402 I was hoping for a Cardinals win.
AZ402
02-01-2009, 10:26 PM
I figured they'd have to play a near perfect game to win, they didn't. Even with all the mistakes/penalties, they were in it with under a minute left to play. I think that they're better than a lot of people thought (me included).
The off season will be interesting.
Spitz
02-01-2009, 10:33 PM
Great game. Much better than I was expecting. AZ had me rooting.
Went into the game not really caring who won (always hated Pittsburg and since Seattle is my team and Arizona is thier rival..)
By half time I was really hoping AZ would pull it out....great game. But just like the Steelers / Seahawks superbowl a few years ago, seemed like Pittsburg got more than thier share of calls
danr55
02-01-2009, 10:58 PM
I want to know what they put in the water for the second half of the third and most of the forth quarter and why they didn't put it in the water for the first half of the game.
It was a great game. Both teams played well.
1_pointer
02-01-2009, 11:02 PM
Very good game. I thought AZ got hosed a few times with some shady calls. They had their chances!! Funny how Big Ben doesn't really put up big numbers or look good doing it, but he does win...
JohnSWA
02-01-2009, 11:03 PM
One bad throw from Warner made the difference. Not blaming the Cardinals. They playe one hell of a game with the way Fitzgerald was covered. Cardinals did all they could and it was a great game. Kudos to the Steelers.
noharleyyet
02-01-2009, 11:08 PM
Cardinals made too many mistakes but played great. Holmes made one of the best catches I've seen in a long while. He deserved MVP IMO.
The off season will be interesting.
Yes it will...Bidwell better get his check book out. Warner is a class act/hinting retirement, Fitzgerald is all world...Cards are a good team right now.....hope they stay near the top for awhile.
sreekers
02-01-2009, 11:32 PM
Very good game. Fun to watch for sure. Wanted the Cards to win, but it did come down to one bad pass by Warner.
Very good game. I thought AZ got hosed a few times with some shady calls.
Care to name them?
Only "Losers" blame officialshump
It was a real good game ... exciting right up to the end...Would have been nice for the players in Az to get the trophy... who have suffered under Bidwills crappy ownership....Time for them to step up and pay-up!
IdahoBugler
02-02-2009, 07:06 AM
Care to name them?
Only "Losers" blame officialshump.The one that sticks out the most to me is the personal foul call on Dansby for a late hit on berger. That dude is so big and hard to take down, don't give him calls like that. Another one that bothered me was Harrison punching #47 on the punt. Dude was face down the whole time and taking some pretty good cheap shots. They got the call but unfortunately it was for only a half yard.
It did seem like Pittsburgh got the calls. Especially when you challenge twice and win them both.
DRAFTSTUD
02-02-2009, 07:10 AM
I saw too many chances for a tackle an AZ just did'nt make them, how many times was the dude hit on that run back in the first half? Also Pitt had people left wide open, I could have throw to them! That said I was really Pulling for AZ. John
guppie9
02-02-2009, 09:47 AM
I agree with Bugler on those two calls. The other two that stick out are the call against Wilson for "Roughing the Placeholder"?? WTF?? He was tripped and pushed into the guy. Even though it didn't change the score (they ended up with a field goal anyway), it did take a couple minutes off the clock that the Cards could have used at the end. The one that REALLY bothers me is the last play of the game. It looked to me like an incomplete pass and not a fumble. So explain to me, how with 5 seconds to go in a great game like this and that play DOESN'T get reviewed???? It doesn't mean that the Cards would have won, but it would have given them one more play. And even if they don't reverse the call, they should have taken the time to double check that one. And since there was less than 2 minutes left, the Cards couldn't initiate the challenge.
All of that said, I was very disappionted that the Cards let Pittsburgh just march down the field like that and score the winning TD. If they would have bucked up and played like they had the rest of the game, it would all be a moot point and the Cards would be the champs.
good game. didn't really care about it except for the bets I had. won on the over/under. had pitt to win outright and also the cards to cover the 6 1/2. hot damn got them both. as far as the calls. the dansby one was a correct call, but very weak. running into the holder was a correct call. the one that got me was the personal foul that cost pitt that 1/2 yard. need to redo that rule where if the whole penalty cannot be enforced, lose a down or something.
I.D /Guppie Calls are made in the blink of an eye from the "officials" pt. of view [ sometimes blocked/ obscured]... [ example]They could have Called Cards M. Gandy for holding/facemask at least 10 times they called 3....Don't understand your problem with the Harrison call "puching out Frisco...."IT WAS CALLED [ personnel foul] unless you wanted Harrison ejected...your flat wrong ... as the call was made... I.D said so [true]
Was that a real saftey? [ kept Cards in the game]....We could go on and on... But I even had guys at the party tell me S holmes DID NOT have bothg feet in bounds! W.T.F.!
Emotional attachment... blurs the vision of bias fans... Is anyone saying the N.F.L. is "FIXED"?....Bottom line is Cards LOST....I could have had an EXTRA $500. if they won..... No complaints here... Exiting Game good/bad officiating?? part of the Game...No show's were Antrel Rolle/Antonio Smith.....Dockett was superman..Fitz unstoppable....[crunch time].....Steelers WON....Game over.
guppie9
02-02-2009, 02:47 PM
I.D /Guppie Calls are made in the blink of an eye from the "officials" pt. of view [ sometimes blocked/ obscured]
My point exactly, thats why I thought that last play should have been reviewed.
To answer your question on Harrison, Yes, I think he should have been ejected. That was my problem with that call.
To be honest, I was celebrating the safety so much that I never did see a replay. I'll have to watch the game again on NFL network and see that one again.
I believe that Holmes scored that touchdown. My buddy that I was watching the game with was adamant that he only got one foot down. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. Fact is, the official on the field looked at AND the play was reviewed. Maybe he really didn't get the other foot down, but there has to be incontrovertable evidence in order to overturn a play. I didn't see that, and that is coming from a Cardinals homer(Me).
I am in no way implying that the game was fixed.
I admit that I am a Cards homer. Maybe your view of the game was altered by your hatred of everything Bidwell.
I will tell you this. I read 4 separate articles by 4 different national sportswriters (not AZ guys) this morning. 3 of those 4 mentioned the poor officiating during the game. So it is not just me and Bugler that think there were questionable calls during the game.
what about the "using the ball as a prop" missed call on Holmes after he made the game winning touch down ? Cards would of had much better field position.
until this gets hashed out, probably should hold off on paying out on any bets I might have lost. :D
whatcha think NHY?
noharleyyet
02-02-2009, 03:50 PM
what about the "using the ball as a prop" missed call on Holmes after he made the game winning touch down ? Cards would of had much better field position.
probably should hold off on paying out on any bets I might have lost. :D
whatcha think NHY? I think you should've stuck with the steelers....duh!
Santonio's Lebron copy was sweeter than Springsteen's off key crap.:D Celebration penalties are just plain stoopid.
Are you guys talking about the holding in the end zone safety?...easiest call of the entire game.
True, I dislike the Bidwills......If anyone has/had a bitch about officials it would be the Seahawks in their Superbowl vs. Steelers ...But was anything done Nope! ... What i am saying is THE BEST TEAM WON!....I bet the steeler fans would complain if "their team" lost... That Why I say.....Only "Losers" blame officials.....Poor officiating?? Maybe Comparative to WHAT???...
Why do we never hear ... that was the "best" officiating I ever Saw?hump
Hey I wish the Cards would have won They blew it:)....3 d'backs... Holmes make a great catch......NFL History will not show a "rating" on how the "officiating went"... Just that the Steelers Won|oo
guppie9
02-02-2009, 03:51 PM
Geez, I forgot about that one JB!!!
Oh and I just read another national sportswriter's column that mentioned the bad officiating, including all the ones we have mentioned so far.
Seriously, though. If the Cards would have held the Steelers on that last drive, it would not be such a big deal.
I am curious, CJ, do you really think the officiating was good?? No one ever says that. But, to me, a good officiating game is when you don't notice them. You can't honestly say that about this game. I'm not saying they should never throw a flag, but it shouldn't have such a profound affect on the game. There have been many examples of poor officiating that affects the outcome. I agree that the Seahawks/Steelers SB was also really bad. Also ask San Diego what they think of Ed Hochuli and I imagine you will get some dirty looks. The point is, the officiating was bad in this game, and I believe, that in a game as close as this was, that it probably affected the outcome. All of that aside, though, I agree that the NFL isn't going to change anything.
what about the "using the ball as a prop" missed call on Holmes after he made the game winning touch down ? Cards would of had much better field position.
until this gets hashed out, probably should hold off on paying out on any bets I might have lost. :D
whatcha think NHY?
How about Fitzgerald facemasking Harrison at the Goal line?? BLAH,BLAH Funny thing about "FANS":D
STEELERS ARE CHAMPS!|oo
Guppie I though it was "Fair/Average" nothing that changed the OUTCOME..Best Team Won:BLEEP:
I think you should've stuck with the steelers....duh!
if I would of stuck with the steelers, I would of immediately called you and canceled the bet due to the poor officiating that started shortly after kick-off. I like to keep things fair and honest.
noharleyyet
02-02-2009, 04:05 PM
if I would of stuck with the steelers, I would of immediately called you and canceled the bet due to the poor officiating that started shortly after kick-off. I like to keep things fair and honest.
Looks like my situational ethics trumped yours. ;)
Anyone see Antrell Rolle block Fizgerald from running Down Harrison BEFORE he got to the goal line... pt. there are plenty of reasons why this why that... sportwriters get paid to write about 'all the Bullshit" .... I have a Mini-ticket to cash:)
guppie9
02-02-2009, 04:29 PM
Yeah, that was pretty atrocious tackling the entire runback. It amazes me that no one was able to bring him down.
I find it interesting that you don't think the officiating was poor. I have a friend who is a die-hard Steelers fan and even he said that they "caught some breaks with the officials". I guess everyone else is wrong and you are right.
noharleyyet
02-02-2009, 04:37 PM
Dick Lebeau made the call that put Harris in the right place. Harris made a great play on the interception and an even better run.
...hard to believe Lebeau is 71, damn sure doesn't look it (born 1937)
JoseCuervo
02-02-2009, 04:59 PM
Dick Lebeau made the call that put Harris in the right place. Harris made a great play on the interception and an even better run.
...hard to believe Lebeau is 71, damn sure doesn't look it (born 1937)
That is awesome that your contemporaries can still function at that level....
Yeah, that was pretty atrocious tackling the entire runback. It amazes me that no one was able to bring him down.
I find it interesting that you don't think the officiating was poor. I have a friend who is a die-hard Steelers fan and even he said that they "caught some breaks with the officials". I guess everyone else is wrong and you are right.
Guppie, you asked "My opinion"|oo
Its not a matter of wrong/right....is a "no-call" a good call? at the end of the day.. Steelers played better... Cards had a "GREAT" chance to win the Game... Stop the Steelers they win... they Didn't they Lost....
When is there ever the best officiated game???|oo
3 defensive backs could not stop the "Game winnig TD".... Cards had a awesome season....its over:)
AZ402
02-02-2009, 07:29 PM
Guppie, CJ is an angry old man, he's posting exactly what I thought he would.
drahthaar
02-02-2009, 07:55 PM
The thing that stuck with me after the game was how the officials seemed to get caught up in the moment and the end of each half and seemed to forget their jobs. Clipping and holding on harrisons runback, I mean, my god, they called every other cupcake penalty all game long. Just because a defensive player is doing it, doesn't make it right. Then non-penalty on the drug dealer-turned-super bowl MVP, for illegal celebration. Cards get 10 yards there to start with. Then the no review on the "fumble", coupled with the excessive celebration puts the Cards inside the 30 for one more shot to Fitz. 8 of 10 times he comes down with it from there, IMO.
I thought the calls went both ways for most of the game, like I said until the ends of the halves when the officials seem to lose their minds getting caught up in the excitement. That was the travesty. I wanted to see one more toss up to Fitz.
Guppie, CJ is an angry old man, he's posting exactly what I thought he would.
You mean the "TRUTH"hump
Geez I just turned 55!:)
You must be Bitter young men...Your Hero's Lost.... deal with it:D
Unless you want me to "totally lie" about the game?? I don't know how to lie... want me to try?
IdahoBugler
02-03-2009, 07:53 AM
Wow proof that both feet were not down. Oh' well like I said I don't give a rats arse about the Cardinals. Crazy thing about the officiating, one call and the Cardinals win. Another call the Steelers way and it's a blow out.
I have to agree the Steelers won that game because the Cardinals couldn't stop them that last drive. Like you said it is already forgotten and now we have to wait until next year to see the Dallas Cowboys win the superbowl. :)
Wow proof that both feet were not down.
at least not in that frame.
http://www.steelersdepot.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/2ft.jpg
http://www.steelersdepot.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/2ftzoom.jpg
pa mt man
02-03-2009, 08:27 AM
I was a die hard Steelers when I graduated high school in 71. The only sport I watched. I don't know when I quit watching football but the last time the Steelers won the superbowl I watched the first half of the game and went to bed. And that was the only game I watched that season. My wife though I was sick. I watched two games this season and this was one of them. Good game and I'm glad the Steelers won for all the Steelers fans I watched it with but I truly didn't care. Wanted 1-3 for my big screen but no luck.
So as to the officiating. I thought it was poor. As to why so many Cards fans are bitching about it I'm going to pull one from hose's playbook and ask,
Why do you guys have a problem with an African American coach winning the superbowl?
Just kidding!!!:D
at least not in that frame.
http://www.steelersdepot.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/2ft.jpg
http://www.steelersdepot.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/2ftzoom.jpg
Some of you "bandwagon" fans are starting to worry me:D