View Full Version : very disturbing video
schmalts
12-31-2006, 11:23 AM
this is disturbing for many reasons. The end is like WTF?? Poaching? i would have to think so, that is why they are shooting at the chopper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkktYS-TBQ8
Moosie
12-31-2006, 11:41 AM
I heard from a Guy many years ago that his Outfitter shot and Killed 2 guys for Poaching. These guys look like they were poaching.
I have mixed feelings on African Poaching. It's not like America poaching (Usually) most of the time it's People that want to kill something to eat. Thats all they have and they are willing to die to try..... becasue they would die otherwise.
Anyways, YAH, Disturbing.....
schmalts
12-31-2006, 12:02 PM
what about the guys killing the Elephants with the chopper, and the mass graves at the end. The part with the jeeps running the trip line was pretty much a poaching thing i would guess. the spear chucking was interesting to see because it shows how it has been done for ages, but you have to wonder if it was poaching as well or not related to the other parts of the video. It would be very interesting to hear the truth about this video.
i took it the person or person's that put the video together see hunting and poaching as the same evil.
Moosie
12-31-2006, 12:10 PM
My guess is it's a colaberation of poahing video. Who knows ? There was a Bear initiative here some years ago and guys aginst hunting bears aired a Video (of poachers) shooting cubs and potrayed it as bear hunting. If I was the NON Hunting public or 50/50 on the hunting, I would have voted to close bear hunting down. Fortunately....Welcome to Idaho, we crushed it. But it doesn't take much of a Video, unethially, legal or not, to taint the sport.
The Trip line was "interesting" to say the least. I would say Interesting... but your word "Disturbing" fits better for the vdeo. I've seen many an Animal Die but for some reasonmy face Cringed and I winced through the whole video.......
schmalts
12-31-2006, 12:25 PM
I had the hardest time watching the elephant die from the spears. I just like them for what they are i guess and seeing him pull the spears out with it's truck was sad. It almost looked like the chukers were aiming for the eyes didnt it?
sreekers
12-31-2006, 12:34 PM
That stuff was pretty sick. If they were doing it for food to survive off of thats fine, but if it was just for the destruction of it thats horrible.
Washington Hunter
12-31-2006, 12:39 PM
It almost looked like the chukers were aiming for the eyes didnt it?
Yes it did. Probably trying to get into the brain. That's one disgusting video.
chequamegonguy
12-31-2006, 12:40 PM
Definitely disturbing video...elephant also got to me. Some of the tribes dont have any other way to do it.
Moosie
12-31-2006, 12:45 PM
On a brighter note... I liked the song ... :D :D
Steiny
12-31-2006, 12:57 PM
Hence the term .... spear chuckers.
Found myself rooting for the animals to stomp a little azz.
schmalts
12-31-2006, 01:18 PM
Hence the term .... spear chuckers.
Found myself rooting for the animals to stomp a little azz.
I thought we would see it too, when they messed with the cape buff. But i guess getting speared from all directions my be confusing to the animal
reminds me of growing up in FL, it took more than one of them to take me down. never attack by themself.
Crude, distasteful, but if they are fighting for survival for food than, I guess it is warrented
Benchleg90
12-31-2006, 07:22 PM
I kept waiting for one of thoes buffalo to stomp one of the guys with the spears.
Bambistew
12-31-2006, 07:48 PM
This was posted on AR about 4-5 months ago. Supposedlly the mass graves where from some fight in Uganda or someplace from years ago, the elephant shot from the helocopters was more than likely a 'cull' hunt.... you want to talk about disturbing do a little reserch on cull hunts for elephants.
The spear chuckers really didn't disturb me all that much. We would have all done the same thing if thats what we had.
Poaching??? I didn't get that from any of it. Like Moosie said in the first post poaching is a diffrent story in Africa.
JASON LEE
01-01-2007, 02:07 PM
Brother gots to eat
Hntnhrd
01-01-2007, 09:49 PM
poaching or not those guys must have sets the size of coconuts to take on those animals with a pointy stick.
This one was pretty cool: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbC0dHUtG50&NR
I think the only thing that saved the guys life was if you watch close the lion slips in the huge pile of chit the guy dropped when the lion was still 10 feet away. I have heard that is a very usefull technigue when you find yourself not at the top of the food chain!! Also the reason for wearing shorts on an african safari:D
Moosie
01-01-2007, 10:21 PM
Hntnhrd, That video has made it's rounds. I think the Guy is an Idiot. I mean Really...... You drug a Lion, put in in a fenced area. Shoot at it 8-9 times and almost die ? That skinny Non Hunting SOB should have died. His "Guides" suck as well...... Jsut my opinion but he's a Dumb A$$.
Hntnhrd
01-01-2007, 10:26 PM
I was trying to make fun of it. Quess I need to work on my sarcasim:cool:
browtine
01-01-2007, 10:55 PM
Terrible video... Makes me really sick to watch the hippo's and elephants take that long to die.
Poaching??? I didn't get that from any of it.
whats your take on the guys shooting up at the chopper . did you catch that ?
Bambistew
01-02-2007, 09:28 AM
What makes you think that was poaching?
When you see clips of guys gunning down wolves or coyote from a plane do you think they are poaching?
That jumbo might have just stomped a few villagers into the dirt, maybe it was wounded and wreaking havoc? A critter like that running around pizzed off is not something you want in your back yard. You have to remember its Africa... they're 'morals' are diffrent than ours. Most see spot lighting as an acceptable form of hunting as well.
When you see clips of guys gunning down wolves or coyote from a plane do you think they are poaching?
no, but if i see guys on the ground shooting up at the plane then i normally think that there might be something wrong ......you must have missed it or i,m seeing things again( i hope the voices dont come back)
Bambistew, watch it again.
Bambistew
01-02-2007, 10:10 AM
The guys shooting at the plane/chopper were on a road or something where they not? They didn't look like they were hunting to me, and my bet is they were some sort of reble force. Who knows. Its a video of about 30 diffrent pices spliced together. Kind of reminds me of a certain Michael Moore film.
The guys shooting at the plane/chopper were on a road or something where they not? They didn't look like they were hunting to me, and my bet is they were some sort of reble force. Who knows.
tea, they were on the road.
didnt seem to be well armed for rebel forces though......not many guns.
no return fire?
Bambistew
01-02-2007, 02:21 PM
didnt seem to be well armed for rebel forces though......not many guns.
The chopper was probably out of spear range.
Actully it looks like the shots fired at the plane/chopper were a muzzle loader with all that smoke.
The chopper was probably out of spear range.
LMAO!
noharleyyet
01-02-2007, 03:17 PM
I can't believe there's not been ONE Watt's analogy...oops, wrong thread.:eek: :D
Almase
01-02-2007, 04:32 PM
It kinda looks like a propaganda video. It showed killing animals and that "sad" kinda music as if that video is used to make you feel that what they're doing wrong. Basically it could be out of context. I think the Africans in the begining may have been hunting for food, they are still tribal after all and dont have the luxery of going to Mc'Ds, or the money for it. But towards the end it did look like some poaching. I have heard that the Game Wardens in Africa are allowed to shoot to kill if they see you poaching, any Africa hunters know if thats true?
camo308
01-02-2007, 06:13 PM
Just another day in Africa I guess. Most of the footage looked to be of many of the same attacks from different angles. I agree with B-Stew that the some of the elephants could have been reeking havoc in a village. There was alot of aggression on the part of the attackers there.
I don't know if any of it is what we call hunting here. In a primitive world and with primitive ideas those images are what you get, then you throw in some modern conveniences like a helicopter or a couple of vehicles and you end up with a slaughter.
Very disturbing to watch but I'll bet it happens all the time there.
1_pointer
01-06-2007, 11:19 AM
The elephant/hippo scenes were painfully for me to watch. Especially using the trunk to pull out the spears and the calf hippo.
muskrat89
01-06-2007, 01:17 PM
Ditto on the elephants and hippos
It's some weird compilation - I agree - I can't see any connection between the mass graves and the rest of the video
I agree with moosie what an idiot how many guys does it take to kill a lion in a pen the guy almost got what he deserved!